US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower

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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9

US tried to plant WMDs, failed: whistleblower

Daily Times Monitor

According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration’s assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to “plant” WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by “friendly fire”, the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense.”

The information that is being leaked out is information “obtained while she was in Germany heading up the debriefing of returning service personnel, involved in intelligence work in Iraq for the DoD and/or the CIA. “According to Ms Rogers, there was a covert military operation that took place both preceding and during the hostilities in Iraq,” reports Al Martin Raw.com, an online subscriber-based news/analysis service which provides “Political, Economic and Financial Intelligence”.

Al Martin is a retired Lt Commander (US Navy), the author of a memoir called “The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider,” and is considered one of America’s foremost experts on corporate and government fraud. Ms Rogers reports that this particular covert operation team was manned by former military personnel and “the unit was paid through the Department of Agriculture in order to hide it, which is also very commonplace”.

According to Al Martin Raw.com, “the Agriculture Department has often been used as a paymaster on behalf of the CIA, DIA, NSA and others”. According to the Al Martin Raw.com story, another aspect of Ms Rogers’ report concerns a covert operation which was to locate the assets of Saddam Hussein and his family, including cash, gold bullion, jewelry and assorted valuable antiquities. The problem became evident when “the operation in Iraq involved 100 people, all of whom apparently are now dead, having succumbed to so-called ‘friendly fire’. The scope of this operation included the penetration of the Central Bank of Iraq, other large commercial banks in Baghdad, the Iraqi National Museum and certain presidential palaces where monies and bullion were secreted.”

“They identified about $2 billion in cash, another $150 million in Euros, in physical banknotes, and about another $100 million in sundry foreign currencies ranging from Yen to British Pounds,” reports Al Martin.

“These people died, mostly in the same place in Baghdad, supposedly from a stray cruise missile or a combination of missiles and bombs that went astray,” Martin continues. “There were supposedly 76 who died there and the other 24 died through a variety of ‘friendly fire’, ‘mistaken identity’ and some of them—their whereabouts are simply unknown.” Ms Rogers’ story sounds like an updated 21st-century version of Treasure Island meets Ali Baba and the Bush Cabal Thieves, writes Martin.

“This was a contingent of CIA/ DoD operatives, but it was really the CIA that bungled it,” Ms Rogers said. “They were relying on the CIA’s ability to organise an effort to seize these assets and to be able to extract these assets because the CIA claimed it had resources on the ground within the Iraqi army and the Iraqi government who had been paid. That turned out to be completely bogus. As usual.”

“CIA people were supposed to be handling it,” Martin continues. “They had a special ‘black’ aircraft to fly it out. But none of that happened because the regular US Army showed up, stumbled onto it and everyone involved had to scramble. These new Iraqi “asset seizures” go directly to the New US Ruling Junta. The US Viceroy in Iraq Paul Bremer is reportedly drinking Saddam’s $2000 a bottle Napoleon-era brandy, smoking his expensive Davidoff cigars and he has even furnished his office with Saddam’s Napoleon-era furniture.
 
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ITS FUNNY HOW YOU GUYS WOULD JUST BELIEVE ANYTHING FROM ANYWHERE JUST BECAUSE IT FITS YOUR AGENDA.

WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE FACTS??

OR LEGITIMATE SOURCES???

mRS. jONES GIVE ME A BREAK.

OR A SPECIAL "BLACK" PLANE?? OOO, HOW STRANGE
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
ITS FUNNY HOW YOU GUYS WOULD JUST BELIEVE ANYTHING FROM ANYWHERE JUST BECAUSE IT FITS YOUR AGENDA.
Havent we been saying this all along? These people that jump in this thread supporting it, are the same that criticize others for believing everything they hear from the media. I wonder what would happen had these same people reported weapons of mass destruction were found in IRAQ. Would they bash it, or would they say "Mrs Jones?! Come on now.."
 
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So I take it Mrs. Jones is a traitor and a threat to the national security of the United States of America.

All soldiers "killed". Hmmm.... I guess that leaves nobody to question if what she is saying is true then? hmmm.... either you are with us or against us. Plain and simple.

Mrs. Jones does what again for a living? Was it specializing in military intelligence? Military tactics? Wait I know, she was on the ground in Iraq cuz she was a small arms explosive and weapons specialist. What do you mean she was a pencil pushing bean counter?

Listen up Mrs. Jones warriors do war, bean counters count beans. It's what they both do best and are qualified for. Otherwise are military would have a hard time keeping anything covert... covert. What's that you say? They already are? Well then somebody needs to shut the fuck up, quit nosing around because you think your life is boring and want some recognition, and thank God they live in the U.S. of A. where freedom of speech is a right and a privelage none of us should abuse or take for granted.

Who are you fighting for again Mrs. Jones? Cuz it definitely ain't us with that traitor ass selfish bullshit. You should fear for your life, cuz your puttin all of ours in danger, and that shit just ain't cool bitch.
 

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Ender said:
So I take it Mrs. Jones is a traitor and a threat to the national security of the United States of America.

All soldiers "killed". Hmmm.... I guess that leaves nobody to question if what she is saying is true then? hmmm.... either you are with us or against us. Plain and simple.

Mrs. Jones does what again for a living? Was it specializing in military intelligence? Military tactics? Wait I know, she was on the ground in Iraq cuz she was a small arms explosive and weapons specialist. What do you mean she was a pencil pushing bean counter?

Listen up Mrs. Jones warriors do war, bean counters count beans. It's what they both do best and are qualified for. Otherwise are military would have a hard time keeping anything covert... covert. What's that you say? They already are? Well then somebody needs to shut the fuck up, quit nosing around because you think your life is boring and want some recognition, and thank God they live in the U.S. of A. where freedom of speech is a right and a privelage none of us should abuse or take for granted.

Who are you fighting for again Mrs. Jones? Cuz it definitely ain't us with that traitor ass selfish bullshit. You should fear for your life, cuz your puttin all of ours in danger, and that shit just ain't cool bitch.
?!?!?! HUH?????? FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS A RIGHT? ROFL...YOU GUYS KILL ME WITH THAT ONE.

WHO IS MRS.JONES?

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Ender said:
Well then somebody needs to shut the fuck up, quit nosing around because you think your life is boring and want some recognition, and thank God they live in the U.S. of A. where freedom of speech is a right and a privelage none of us should abuse or take for granted.

Who are you fighting for again Mrs. Jones? Cuz it definitely ain't us with that traitor ass selfish bullshit. You should fear for your life, cuz your puttin all of ours in danger, and that shit just ain't cool bitch.
Let me get this straight.

You assert that "freedom of speech is a right" in the U.S. but then you subsequently tell someone (Ms. Jones?) to "shut the fuck up" and "quit nosing around?"

Whose side are you really on?

I find it ironic how frequently I see people extolling the virtues of a country that guarantees its citizens "the right to free speech" while simultaneously telling others to be happy about the prevailing social order and to keep quiet. It seems those very same people who claim to love their country for the "right" to "free speech" would be the first to support the silencing of others' "undesirable" opinions.

If you're truly concerned about who's putting your life in danger, there are far greater threats to all of our lives than a "Ms. Jones" writing a news article...
 
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I guess I spoke a little too fast on that one. My bad. I'm hella tired right now. I just read the name off the last post you know when you be postin and you can scroll down and the post be in reverse order. I saw the name Mrs. Jones and put it up. I meant Nelda Rogers. ha ha ha.

Just replace "Mrs. Jones" with Nelda Rogers or anyone else who fits that description and behavioral characteristic and then you should get my point.

Ender's been trying to get in shape for Basic Training doin hella runnin and liftin weights for the last couple of weeks. Add in the factor that I'm tryin to quit smoking which equates two: five days not smokin, then shit just one cigarette today cuz I deserve it, then two the next day, then a pack the next day smokin like 4 of them mothafuckas in a row, then damn it sure is alot harder to run today for some reason, then damn I hella want stoges today but I'm broke as shit, then tryin to flex the mentals on the GOM forum, and you should come to the conclusion that I'm stressin. 4 weeks til showtime... damn... 5'6" 110 lbs of pure fury in my favor... I hope I pass that shit.
 
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Ender said:
Ender's been trying to get in shape for Basic Training doin hella runnin and liftin weights for the last couple of weeks. Add in the factor that I'm tryin to quit smoking which equates two: five days not smokin, then shit just one cigarette today cuz I deserve it, then two the next day, then a pack the next day smokin like 4 of them mothafuckas in a row, then damn it sure is alot harder to run today for some reason, then damn I hella want stoges today but I'm broke as shit, then tryin to flex the mentals on the GOM forum, and you should come to the conclusion that I'm stressin. 4 weeks til showtime... damn... 5'6" 110 lbs of pure fury in my favor... I hope I pass that shit.
LOL

Fight hard for our freedom, ok?
 
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Mcleanhatch said:
WHEN I FIRST READ THIS ARTICLE NELDA ROGERS/MRS ROGERS REALLY READ "MRS JONES". SO I TAKE IT TENK OR SOMEBODY ELSE WENT INTO THAT POST AND MADE THE CHANGE SINCE IT DOES SAY THAT THE POST HAS BEEN EDITED
i doubt it, the first post to this thread was 20sixx about an hour Tenk posted it., Tenk edited 2mins after he started the thread....you dont posted about 2hours after...neither you a slow reader or lying...but i think you are lying, if it really read "mrs jones" then it would show in the original source....it doesnt.
 
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SOLO said:
You assert that "freedom of speech is a right" in the U.S. but then you subsequently tell someone (Ms. Jones?) to "shut the fuck up" and "quit nosing around?" .... I find it ironic how frequently I see people extolling the virtues of a country that guarantees its citizens "the right to free speech" while simultaneously telling others to be happy about the prevailing social order and to keep quiet. It seems those very same people who claim to love their country for the "right" to "free speech" would be the first to support the silencing of others' "undesirable" opinions.
Don't get it all mixed up, it's one thing to deny someone their right to free speech, its another to suggest that a person with-hold their own constitutional right for the well being of others.

HERESY said:
?!?!?! HUH?????? FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS A RIGHT? ROFL...YOU GUYS KILL ME WITH THAT ONE.
It is a constitutional right given to every U.S. citizen.
 
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Don't get it all mixed up, it's one thing to deny someone their right to free speech, its another to suggest that a person with-hold their own constitutional right for the well being of others.



It is a constitutional right given to every U.S. citizen.
Nitro, you remind me of Gizmo:dead: :dead: :dead:
 
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What is it you think you found with my comments? I can tell you obviously mis-interpreted it, but im curious as to how.

Gizmo is a good man. We share many of the same beliefs.
 

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@Mcleanhatch the original link was provided. I didnt see a "mrs.jones" in the original....:confused:

MCLEAN and NITRO did you two read the article?

@nitro you said:
It is a constitutional right given to every U.S. citizen.
If rich white slave owners NEVER implemented the "constitution" would we still have these so called "rights"?

SEE I HAVE A PROBLEM....NO ONE GIVES ME THE RIGHT TO SPEAK WHATS ON MY MIND. YES YOU CAN GIVE ME THE RIGHT TO DRIVE (EXAMPLE) BUT YOU CANT GIVE ME THE RIGHT TO SPEAK MY MIND...

THATS LIKE GIVING ME THE RIGHT TO BREATH AIR.

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