Puff killed Pac? Puff driving Orlandos uncles car in Ushers first single

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Don't wanna open a can of worms.. as mentioned searching these forums isn't straight forward and couldnt find anything specific on this...

Trivia about Ushers first single 1994 produced by Puff Daddy and Jodeci's DeVante (on talkbox). From wiki -

The music video for the song is notorious for including a 1964 Impala convertible (driven by Sean "Puff Daddy" Combs) that belonged to Gangster Crips member Keffe D, the uncle of Orlando Anderson, the prime suspect in the 1996 killing of Tupac Shakur.
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Puffy paid Orlando Anderson to stand at the Casino lobby so he could get jumped by Death Row Records artist and entourage. What followed went down as planned.

No, I'm bullshitting LOL!

Orlando Anderson killed Tupac in retaliation for him getting jumped in the casino lobby. Keefe D has confirmed that.
 
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The biggest question left about the whole thing IMO is whether Puff was involved. The documentary Murder Rap solves most of it. But Kifi throwing Puff into it is interesting to me. Could be true. Could not be true. Completely unplugged storyline from the rest of the narrative.

But for real do you think the Crips would have accepted a hit on 2Pac and NOT ever collect the $15K bounty or whatever it was from Puff? Puff is in LA all the time. His son went to UCLA I think. I find it hard to think that would go on with no retaliation on Puff.
 
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Pac wasn't trying to play shit. Fuck them bad boy niggas
I always dug Pacs music and never listened to no Bad Boy shit but you lying to yourself if you think Pac was something he wasn't.....real gs know.. RIP to the man but he did this shit to himself and got his card pulled by a gangsta...
 
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I always dug Pacs music and never listened to no Bad Boy shit but you lying to yourself if you think Pac was something he wasn't.....real gs know.. RIP to the man but he did this shit to himself and got his card pulled by a gangsta...
he did shoot 2 off duty policy officers after they shot at him first which is pretty "gangsta"


but if you mean the la gang culture then yes he did step into the lions den
Pac was a sensitive theater art school kid and became a "thug life gangsta" in his 20's after he was already successful. Dude went from performing Shakespeare to being a gangster in the matter of a couple years. Shit was so fucking pointless. So much wasted talent in both music and movies just to live a fake life.
 
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Pac was a sensitive theater art school kid and became a "thug life gangsta" in his 20's after he was already successful. Dude went from performing Shakespeare to being a gangster in the matter of a couple years. Shit was so fucking pointless. So much wasted talent in both music and movies just to live a fake life.
Pac was a live wire tho straight up..
 

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Pac was a sensitive theater art school kid and became a "thug life gangsta" in his 20's after he was already successful. Dude went from performing Shakespeare to being a gangster in the matter of a couple years. Shit was so fucking pointless. So much wasted talent in both music and movies just to live a fake life.
This is true but people who like to play that argument point seem to not acknowledge that his prison time deeply effected who he was and how he operated post release.

The streets only accept late bloomers and grown ass adult BGs under one
Pretense: state or fed time.... he checked the box and went full blast for the final 2 years of his life.... it sure did rush him to the grave but most the street consensus is that it was a genuine 2 yrs.... not fake to sell more records or land another role...
 
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Commercially, Pac was one of the most successful to ever do it, he created a movement and birthed many careers. I think he was a product of his success as many would be with that much wealth and power. He made dope shit a lot of us grew up on. A lot of anti establishment.

That being said, I always loved the competitive battle that was part of hip hop and lyrically in that sense, he got destroyed by Chino XL


 
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This is true but people who like to play that argument point seem to not acknowledge that his prison time deeply effected who he was and how he operated post release.

The streets only accept late bloomers and grown ass adult BGs under one
Pretense: state or fed time.... he checked the box and went full blast for the final 2 years of his life.... it sure did rush him to the grave but most the street consensus is that it was a genuine 2 yrs.... not fake to sell more records or land another role...
When did he find the time to be "full blast" though? He was on like 5 movie sets the last two years of his life and recorded 4 albums and was touring the country appearing on TV shows like Arsenio Hall and MTV shit.

I still remember Marlon Wayans doing an interview talking about 2pac a few years ago saying he wasn't a real gangster, but a method actor who was deep into pretending to be one. Marlon Wayans was good friends with 2pac from when they made Above The Rim together up until he died.

All I've ever heard about for the last 20 years from people that were actually around him was that he was a studio gangster that got dragged into Suge Knight's stupid shit. The times he was around Suge meant he was gonna be around Pirus, but I highly highly doubt 2pac was ever actually active in the streets with these Pirus. Seemed more like he went too far playing gangster and it backfired when he got too deep around real ones.


"Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. I'm not the thief who grabs your purse. I'm not the guy who jacks your car. I'm not down with people who steal and hurt others. I'm just a brother who fights back. I'm not some violent closet psycho. I've got a job. I'm an artist." - Tupac Shakur, 10 months before he died.