Pacquiao Being Accused Of Using Roids!!

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Pacquiao's Jeet Kune Do Nutrition


Teri Tom, MS, RD, is a board member of the Bruce Lee Foundation and a certified Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do instructor under Sifu Ted Wong.

Teri is also a registered dietitian with a BA in communications studies from UCLA, a master's degree in nutritional science from California State University, Los Angeles, and a certificate in personal training from the National Academy of Sports Medicine. She specializes in sports nutrition and runs her practice out of the exclusive SportsClub/LA in West Los Angeles.

She has been Pac's nutritionist since the the pre-DLH fight.

Tom said she was challenged to build up Pacquiao’s body mass without compromising his speed and power when he decided to move up two weight classes to fight De la Hoya.

“Manny has a history of dipping into the 130s only several weeks into training which was fine when he was fighting at a lower weight but this time, we had to keep him heavy so he’d have some heft going into the ring with Oscar,” wrote Tom in her book “Martial Arts Nutrition.”

Tom said in Pacquiao’s diet, she increased the frequency of his meals and switched his supplements. She introduced a protein shake of about 20 grams in the morning before jogging and another 20 grams after his workout in the afternoon. There was also a mid-morning snack, usually an egg sandwich. The goal was to build his muscle mass.

Eating a lot of calorie-laden food at his favorite Thai restaurant beside the Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles was not a problem in Tom’s program.

“When you’re Manny, you burn through calories like there’s no tomorrow,” said Tom. “My feeling is if he’s four to six percent body fat and losing muscle is a concern, I’m not going to quibble about the Thai restaurant and coconut sauces. It’s more important that he get those calories in and that it’s palatable to him and that he enjoys his food. A lot of people ask me about the four cups of rice he’ll have. Again, not a problem when body fat is coming down and we are preserving muscle.”

Tom said a careful balance of nutritional intake is crucial during Pacquiao’s training period. “Carbohydrate intake during extended bouts of exercise has been proved to improve performance,” she noted. “Carbohydrates are key to fueling your alertness and skill whether you’re training or competing.”

Tom's books: (with a foreward from Bruce Lee's daughter)

Martial Arts Nutrition: A Precision Guide to Fueling Your Fighting Edge


The Straight Lead: The Core of Bruce Lee's Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do


Jeet Kune Do: The Arsenal of Self-Expression (Paperback)
 
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It isn't really rocket science on how to gain weight. Although with manny, if you look at the weight classes he was fighting in compared to what he actually weighed during the actual fight, you can clearly see hes simply fighting in his natural weight class now and not cutting pounds to make weight. Check:


03 Barrera 126 fight night 136
04 Marquez 126 fight night 137
05 Morales 130 fight night 139
06 Morales 2 130 fight night 140
06 Morales 3 130 fight night 144
07 Barrera 2 130 fight night 144
08 Marquez 2 130 fight night 145
08 Diaz 135 fight night 147
08 DLH 147 fight night 148.5
09 Hatton 140 fight night 148
09 Cotto 145 fight night ???
 
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Not all steroids make you gain weight, some will make your lose weight overall. Over half of all Combat athletes use steroids, maybe even 80%, the guys who dont, are called b level fighters.
I say most professional athletes in general use some type of steroid at one point of their career.
 
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Anavar I could agree. Not that I think he takes it, just wouldn't be that surprised if he tested for it. It takes about 3 weeks to get out of your system.

Sust is in there for a good couple of months.

For me...
Anavar = Strong as fuck
Anavar is one of the weaker steroids...alot of girls use Anavar to cut up while makin minimal strength gains.
test prop or test suspension is what alot of athletes i know at d1 levels take because is out of your system in 3-4 days.
 
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Anavar is one of the weaker steroids...alot of girls use Anavar to cut up while makin minimal strength gains.
test prop or test suspension is what alot of athletes i know at d1 levels take because is out of your system in 3-4 days.
Anavar is far from weak. It's one of the best orals out there. It's just really pure (and expensive) so you don't get the side effects (estrogen build up, increase in blood pressure, raise body temp, rage, etc.) Anavar doesnt cut you up either, it just makes dense muscle. Females take it because they really aren't supposed to use test.
 
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It isn't really rocket science on how to gain weight. Although with manny, if you look at the weight classes he was fighting in compared to what he actually weighed during the actual fight, you can clearly see hes simply fighting in his natural weight class now and not cutting pounds to make weight. Check:


03 Barrera 126 fight night 136
04 Marquez 126 fight night 137
05 Morales 130 fight night 139
06 Morales 2 130 fight night 140
06 Morales 3 130 fight night 144
07 Barrera 2 130 fight night 144
08 Marquez 2 130 fight night 145
08 Diaz 135 fight night 147
08 DLH 147 fight night 148.5
09 Hatton 140 fight night 148
09 Cotto 145 fight night ???


Great post and point.

Which is another pretty significant advantage IMO. The weight cut, no matter how efficient these fighters are at doing it, and rehydrating...is always going to affect your endurance and physical performance.

Its a huge advantage not to have to cut massive amounts of weight and fight at your natural weight or very close to it. Especially when your style of fighting is like Manny's.


Not to mention the fact that people who see saw in their conditioning in between fights are going to really suffer physically from a weight cut.
 
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It isn't really rocket science on how to gain weight. Although with manny, if you look at the weight classes he was fighting in compared to what he actually weighed during the actual fight, you can clearly see hes simply fighting in his natural weight class now and not cutting pounds to make weight. Check:


03 Barrera 126 fight night 136
04 Marquez 126 fight night 137
05 Morales 130 fight night 139
06 Morales 2 130 fight night 140
06 Morales 3 130 fight night 144
07 Barrera 2 130 fight night 144
08 Marquez 2 130 fight night 145
08 Diaz 135 fight night 147
08 DLH 147 fight night 148.5
09 Hatton 140 fight night 148
09 Cotto 145 fight night ???


Great post and point.

Which is another pretty significant advantage IMO. The weight cut, no matter how efficient these fighters are at doing it, and rehydrating...is always going to affect your endurance and physical performance.

Its a huge advantage not to have to cut massive amounts of weight and fight at your natural weight or very close to it. Especially when your style of fighting is like Manny's.


Not to mention the fact that people who see-
saw in their conditioning in between fights are going to really suffer physically from a weight cut.
 
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Anavar is far from weak. It's one of the best orals out there. It's just really pure (and expensive) so you don't get the side effects (estrogen build up, increase in blood pressure, raise body temp, rage, etc.) Anavar doesnt cut you up either, it just makes dense muscle. Females take it because they really aren't supposed to use test.
I took 2 cycles of that shit....Basically no sides but my cholesterol level was through the roof.It is one of the better ORAL steroids.My max bench only went up 25lbs and squat went up 35lbs.I put on a 5 lbs of muscle while dropping 3% bodyfat over 2 8 week cycles(40mg a day).In general Oral steroids are childs play.I used it while playing baseball so i would make gains, recover faster while not packin on muscle.

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Anavar-Oxandrolone.html
Anavar (oxandrolone) is everyone’s favorite oral cutting anabolic steroid. It produces clean, high quality gains in strength, and a very distinct hardening effect on the physique of the user. Really, I have to say, I love this stuff, although I’ve only used it twice. The only drawback is that it’s a very expensive chemical to produce. It’s also not overly toxic despite being an oral steroid, it doesn’t produce many side effects at all, and is relatively mild on the natural endocrine system (for a steroid, that is). You’re not going to gain much, if any bodyweight from Anavar, but what you do gain will be very nice looking muscle, and little if any weight gain in the way of water.
 
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Oh I agree, I would never do just an oral only cycle. It's usually just a kick starter but I choose to stay on. 40mg is a good amount. Im on 30mg right now, but I'm also on 50mg winny (oral), Andropen (325mg) twice a week, and Tren Depot 100mg EOD. Another week and then its PCT time.

Anavar is just a favorite of mine. Stronger ones like DBol just dont do it for me. I'm not into quick massive gains. 6 weeks of DBol (w/ andropen and eq) made me stack on 17 lbs of mass, not my goal. So my last 6 weeks is spent shredding down (ana, winny, andropen, tren). 155 at first...172 6 weeks in....162 now (11 weeks in).

In regards of Manny, based on 2-0s breakdown he's had 6 years to put on 12 pounds of muscle which humans are completely capable of doing without being on gear. I personally can't gain more than 4-5 pounds of pure muscle a year being off gear. 2 pounds a year is legit. Just going back, if he was on something like Anavar or Winstrol I wouldn't be that shocked but I seriously doubt he is.
 
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i wanna get my hands on that , i've heard theres no need for a PCT and strenght gains are off the hook , also it's great for cutting
I wouldnt do an anavar only cycle, it would be a waste.

The strength gains are great and you are right there is no need for PCT since it doesn't convert to estrogen. I wouldn't rely on it for cutting though. Your BFP would have to be 10% or less for you to notice any type of "cut" result.
 
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When he first started saying that stuff, I didn't really address it because it was coming from Floyd," a clearly frustrated Ariza told me the other day on the telephone. "But things like that can start to snowball. I'm not saying this to be demeaning, but Floyd never finished high school and I'm not sure he knows the difference between steroids and supplements, which can be confusing. Nouns, subjects and verbs can also be confusing if you don't finish high school. I'm just not sure Floyd knows the difference.

"I don't give Manny any of that stuff. He's gone though his life without taking that."

Ariza said the only thing Pacquiao uses for his strength is hard work, a 7,000-calorie-a-day diet and approved supplements, which Ariza gives him.

"He does take supplements," Ariza said. "Absolutely, he has to. This couldn't be done without them. I'm talking about multi-vitamins, trace minerals. We take other supplements for his kidney and liver because Manny is on such a high-protein diet. I blend several different kinds of proteins. We do take those things without a doubt, but all of them -- all of them -- are perfectly legal. I make sure I stay with the same brands I have used for years to make sure there are no additives I'm unaware of. If we did anything wrong it would show up in Manny's urinalysis and I am completely in control of what goes into Manny. He knows everything he takes all comes from me and everything he puts into his body is my responsibility. I take it seriously."

Ariza also works with junior welterweight titlist Amir Khan and junior middleweight prospect Vanes Martirosyan. Ariza said he has them on the same program that Pacquiao is on.

"Manny is such a clean person," Ariza said. "He will not even take Advil. He had a knee problem after the Ricky Hatton [in May]. It was tender and swelled up and it took until a week before the fight [with Cotto] to get the swelling down. He wouldn't take an anti-inflammatory unless absolutely necessary. As long as I have known him, like when he separated his shoulder once, he wouldn't take anything."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4678252&name=rafael_dan

Ariza said during training camp for the Cotto fight in Baguio in the Philippines that Pacquiao was icing his knee three times a day and "I pleaded with him to just take the Advil for five days. He doesn't believe in it. He didn't have immunizations when he was a child and he feels like that is why he is so strong. He grew up like that and that's what he believes."


Ariza said getting Pacquiao just to take the supplements was a major accomplishment.

"I think Freddie will attest to it," Ariza said. "It was a huge step for Manny. He doesn't know a lot about those things, but over time he's grown confident in what I am giving him. We've passed every test there is. Manny takes nothing illegal. Mayweather can say whatever he wants.
 
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For the record....


Pacquiao tested clean following Nov. 14 TKO win over Cotto
For the 10th time, Manny Pacquiao turned in a clean urine test in Nevada
Floyd Mayweather Sr. had publicly accused Pacquiao of taking steroids
Nevada's tests samples for 40 types of steroids, diuretics and masking agents



Manny Pacquiao submitted urine tests before and after his win over Miguel Cotto, and both came back positive.
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NEW YORK (SI.COM) -- Seven time world champion Manny Pacquiao tested clean following his Nov. 14 TKO win over Miguel Cotto, SI.com has learned.

Pacquiao, who became the first boxer to win seven championships in as many weight classes, underwent urine tests twice -- before and after the fight -- and both came back negative, said Keith Kizer, executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. It's the the 10th time the Filipino has turned in clean tests in Nevada.

Immediately following his win over Cotto, fans inside the MGM Grand Arena pleaded for a megafight with Floyd Mayweather Jr., who many have regarded as the top pound-for-pound fighter since his return in September. In response to the expected fanfare, Floyd Mayweather Sr. publicly accused Pacquiao of taking steroids.

Mayweather Sr., Floyd's father and trainer, told SI's Chris Mannix that he believed Pacquiao's ability to take Cotto's powerful shots and keep coming proved the champion was taking performance-enhancing substances. "I know Floyd is the best," said Mayweather Sr. "But when [your opponent] uses something illegal, even the best can get hurt."

Floyd Sr. offered no evidence to support his claim.

Since 2002, Nevada has required fighters to submit urine samples before every fight. Those samples test for 40 types of steroids, diuretics and masking agents. In his 10 Las Vegas fights, Pacquiao has never tested positive, and his conditioning coach, Alex Ariza, said the only substances his fighter took leading up to the fight with Cotto were whey protein and liver-support supplements, in addition to his 6,500-calorie diet.

Pacquiao has been bombarded with accusations of doping, having conquered seven weight divisions since entering the sport at 106 pounds when he was 16. And after Mayweather Sr.'s comments following the Nov. 14 bout, there has been speculation that if a megafight between Floyd Jr. and Pacquiao is agreed upon, Mayweather's camp may place stipulations in the fight contract that would require both fighters to take separate, mandatory drug tests in addition to the required tests by state athletic commissions.

But at 10-0 with his Nevada drug tests, Pacquiao has provided plenty of proof he cleanly fought his way to seven world titles.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/mma/boxing/11/24/pacquiao-clean/#ixzz0XocvUEKW