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Mayweather to Dictate Drug Testing Terms for Mosley Fight
Print PageSend to a FriendBy Paul Upham: Now that the contracts for the May 1 Floyd Mayweather Jr-Shane Mosley welterweight boxing match have been signed, SecondsOut can reveal a stunning component of their agreement.
In signing off on the deal, Mosley has given Mayweather complete control over the drug testing to be implemented, apart from any testing that is required by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
A source who was involved in the contract negotiations for the fight told SecondsOut on Friday, “Shane has signed a contract that says Floyd can dictate the terms of the drug testing. Anything that Floyd wants is all right, as long as Floyd submits to the same testing requirements as Shane. There is no provision one way or another in the contract for public disclosure of the test results, although I would think that the parties would be bound to report a positive test result to the Nevada commission.
”In other words, Floyd Mayweather Jr has now supplanted the Nevada State Athletic Commission for his fight with Mosley in so far as testing for performance enhancing drugs is concerned.
The manner in which Mayweather chooses to implement this contract provision could reinforce or make a folly of his demand that Manny Pacquiao submit by contract to random blood testing - a demand which subsequently led to the cancellation of their proposed March 13 super-fight.It also raises a number of important issues and questions about the Mayweather-Mosley fight and its legitimacy in the eyes of the public.
One boxing insider, when told of the contract terms for Mayweather-Mosley, said, “If Floyd Mayweather Jr does not demand the same stringent USADA testing by USADA of Mosley that he was demanding of Pacquiao, it would look hypocritical at best.
”On January 17, SecondsOut’s senior columnist Thomas Hauser wrote a 10,000 word expose Mayweather-Pacquiao, PEDs, and Boxing. It was the most in-depth analysis ever of the issue of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) in boxing. The content of the story and the questions raised were applauded by those in the boxing industry and fans around the world.In demanding that Pacquiao submit to Mayweather’s blood testing demands, Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, put themselves in a very delicate position for future fight agreements.
Hauser wrote, “Golden Boy can take the lead on the issue of PEDs in boxing and become a beacon of integrity by requiring its fighters to submit to Olympic-style drug testing before each major fight. And in order to fight on a Golden Boy card (remember; Golden Boy has a lot of dates on HBO), it could require opponents to do the same.”The contracts signed by Mayweather, Mosley, and Golden Boy Promotions, where blood testing is at Mayweather’s whim rather than a contractual requirement, call Golden Boy’s absolute demand of Pacquiao into question.
Also at this time, there has been no announcement about any contractually mandated drug testing requirements for the April 3 Bernard Hopkins-Roy Jones Jr rematch, which is promoted by Golden Boy Promotions and Square Ring. Jones has previously tested positive for PEDs, while Hopkins (like Mosley) has never tested positive. However, it is a matter of record that Mosley did in fact use PEDs prior to his second fight against Oscar De La Hoya.
In his column, Hauser also observed that, if Oscar De La Hoya is truly committed to theimprovement of boxing, he could “show the world how a righteous PED-free fighter acts. In order to fully inform the public on the issues involved (and remove any hint of suspicion that he himself might not have clean hands) Oscar should waive his right to confidentiality and authorize the Nevada State Athletic Commission to release the results of any tests for performance enhancing drugs that he has taken in the past. The same waiver should authorize all present and past NSAC personnel and any other person with knowledge of the situation to discuss the test results with any media representative who inquires about them.
”To date, De La Hoya has been silent on the issue of this waiver.
USA Boxing News
Mayweather to Dictate Drug Testing Terms for Mosley Fight
Print PageSend to a FriendBy Paul Upham: Now that the contracts for the May 1 Floyd Mayweather Jr-Shane Mosley welterweight boxing match have been signed, SecondsOut can reveal a stunning component of their agreement.
In signing off on the deal, Mosley has given Mayweather complete control over the drug testing to be implemented, apart from any testing that is required by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
A source who was involved in the contract negotiations for the fight told SecondsOut on Friday, “Shane has signed a contract that says Floyd can dictate the terms of the drug testing. Anything that Floyd wants is all right, as long as Floyd submits to the same testing requirements as Shane. There is no provision one way or another in the contract for public disclosure of the test results, although I would think that the parties would be bound to report a positive test result to the Nevada commission.
”In other words, Floyd Mayweather Jr has now supplanted the Nevada State Athletic Commission for his fight with Mosley in so far as testing for performance enhancing drugs is concerned.
The manner in which Mayweather chooses to implement this contract provision could reinforce or make a folly of his demand that Manny Pacquiao submit by contract to random blood testing - a demand which subsequently led to the cancellation of their proposed March 13 super-fight.It also raises a number of important issues and questions about the Mayweather-Mosley fight and its legitimacy in the eyes of the public.
1. If U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) testing was demanded for Mayweather-Pacquiao, will it be insisted upon by Floyd Mayweather for Mayweather-Mosley?
2. What would the Nevada State Athletic Commission do if, just prior to the Mayweather-Mosley fight, they received a positive test result?
3. If there is no public disclosure of the testing, how could the public be sure that a positive test would be reported to the Nevada
4. If there is no public disclosure of the testing, a positive test could result in the fight being cancelled with a bogus reason for the cancellation being given to the public.
2. What would the Nevada State Athletic Commission do if, just prior to the Mayweather-Mosley fight, they received a positive test result?
3. If there is no public disclosure of the testing, how could the public be sure that a positive test would be reported to the Nevada
4. If there is no public disclosure of the testing, a positive test could result in the fight being cancelled with a bogus reason for the cancellation being given to the public.
One boxing insider, when told of the contract terms for Mayweather-Mosley, said, “If Floyd Mayweather Jr does not demand the same stringent USADA testing by USADA of Mosley that he was demanding of Pacquiao, it would look hypocritical at best.
”On January 17, SecondsOut’s senior columnist Thomas Hauser wrote a 10,000 word expose Mayweather-Pacquiao, PEDs, and Boxing. It was the most in-depth analysis ever of the issue of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) in boxing. The content of the story and the questions raised were applauded by those in the boxing industry and fans around the world.In demanding that Pacquiao submit to Mayweather’s blood testing demands, Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, put themselves in a very delicate position for future fight agreements.
Hauser wrote, “Golden Boy can take the lead on the issue of PEDs in boxing and become a beacon of integrity by requiring its fighters to submit to Olympic-style drug testing before each major fight. And in order to fight on a Golden Boy card (remember; Golden Boy has a lot of dates on HBO), it could require opponents to do the same.”The contracts signed by Mayweather, Mosley, and Golden Boy Promotions, where blood testing is at Mayweather’s whim rather than a contractual requirement, call Golden Boy’s absolute demand of Pacquiao into question.
Also at this time, there has been no announcement about any contractually mandated drug testing requirements for the April 3 Bernard Hopkins-Roy Jones Jr rematch, which is promoted by Golden Boy Promotions and Square Ring. Jones has previously tested positive for PEDs, while Hopkins (like Mosley) has never tested positive. However, it is a matter of record that Mosley did in fact use PEDs prior to his second fight against Oscar De La Hoya.
In his column, Hauser also observed that, if Oscar De La Hoya is truly committed to theimprovement of boxing, he could “show the world how a righteous PED-free fighter acts. In order to fully inform the public on the issues involved (and remove any hint of suspicion that he himself might not have clean hands) Oscar should waive his right to confidentiality and authorize the Nevada State Athletic Commission to release the results of any tests for performance enhancing drugs that he has taken in the past. The same waiver should authorize all present and past NSAC personnel and any other person with knowledge of the situation to discuss the test results with any media representative who inquires about them.
”To date, De La Hoya has been silent on the issue of this waiver.
damn, so this is where the belief is coming from. Floyd sr and roger mayweather both believe that pac isn't taking steroids, he's taking some mythical drug that Filipino's take in the army!!!
Mayweather Sr. Uncensored: Fires Hot Bullets at Pacquiao
[...]
When I pressed Floyd Sr. for an answer on what exactly Pacquiao was allegedly taking to fight in such spectacular fashion, he told BoxingScene about some rumors that pertain to a performance enhancer being used by the military.
"It's not a steroid. It's something from the Philippines. Something they use in the army. When you hit the guy with a .45 or a .38 and they keep coming after they get shot. Whatever it is it has to be something strong for you to keep coming forward after you get shot," Mayweather Sr. said.
LMAO. Full article here:
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=25636
Mayweather Sr. Uncensored: Fires Hot Bullets at Pacquiao
[...]
When I pressed Floyd Sr. for an answer on what exactly Pacquiao was allegedly taking to fight in such spectacular fashion, he told BoxingScene about some rumors that pertain to a performance enhancer being used by the military.
"It's not a steroid. It's something from the Philippines. Something they use in the army. When you hit the guy with a .45 or a .38 and they keep coming after they get shot. Whatever it is it has to be something strong for you to keep coming forward after you get shot," Mayweather Sr. said.
LMAO. Full article here:
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=25636
LMAO.... should of just taken the test to kill all the noise and the fight would have jumped off. I don't want to hear that BS about Floyd this and Floyd that, anybody in their right minds would have taken the tests so the fight could go down. Obviously, Pac-Man didn't want it (it meaning the fight and to clear his name) enough so let the speculation continue.
haha, bob arum and the mayweathers killed the fight.
I mean seriously, this whole thing started because the Mayweathers believe manny is on some magic and he's bulletproof. c'mon!!!
in the end it will be cleared up, i believe, when they agree to fight & tests at the end of the year.
until then it's worth noting where and how this whole thing started.
I mean seriously, this whole thing started because the Mayweathers believe manny is on some magic and he's bulletproof. c'mon!!!
in the end it will be cleared up, i believe, when they agree to fight & tests at the end of the year.
until then it's worth noting where and how this whole thing started.
I think Floyd wanted the fight (and the money) more than Pac did but he was going to stand strong on Pac and himself getting tested.
I think Floyd wanted the Pac fight because:
A. It would/should/could have been an easier fight than Sugar Shane Mosely.
B. He could reclaim his number 1 pound for pound status by beating Pacman.
C. He would have made more money by fighting Pacman.
So I think those are the reasons why Floyd wanted the fight. I don't think pacman wanted it bad enough because if he did then he would have agreed to take the test and agreed to the 2 week cut off period. Obviously they (Pacman/Arum) didn't want it bad enough. I'm pretty sure that everyone here (in this siccness/boxing forum) would have agreed to take the test if either of us wanted the fight bad enough. Plus Pacman could have cleared up all the speculation that the Mayweather's are causing!
I think Floyd wanted the Pac fight because:
A. It would/should/could have been an easier fight than Sugar Shane Mosely.
B. He could reclaim his number 1 pound for pound status by beating Pacman.
C. He would have made more money by fighting Pacman.
So I think those are the reasons why Floyd wanted the fight. I don't think pacman wanted it bad enough because if he did then he would have agreed to take the test and agreed to the 2 week cut off period. Obviously they (Pacman/Arum) didn't want it bad enough. I'm pretty sure that everyone here (in this siccness/boxing forum) would have agreed to take the test if either of us wanted the fight bad enough. Plus Pacman could have cleared up all the speculation that the Mayweather's are causing!
the speculation that pac is on a-side-meth?? lmao, there is a new article today with roger mayweather still saying he's on a-side-meth. So you have all the mayweathers now (floyd sr, floyd jr and roger) all saying pac is on this mythical drug that supposedly makes Filipino people bullet proof.
I wonder if NSAC can test for magic?? Like, will blood tests reveal sorcery and wizardry???
And on a side note, roger's dumb ass confirmed mayweather injects his hands, stating, “What difference does it make? I don’t see why it’s a big deal because Floyd uses something to numb his hands” – Roger Mayweather from boxingtruth.com
I wonder if NSAC can test for magic?? Like, will blood tests reveal sorcery and wizardry???
And on a side note, roger's dumb ass confirmed mayweather injects his hands, stating, “What difference does it make? I don’t see why it’s a big deal because Floyd uses something to numb his hands” – Roger Mayweather from boxingtruth.com
Floyd killed this fight pure and simple.
Manny agreed to testing.
Why not let Floyd dictate what music Manny can walk into, what clothes he can wear, and who can be present at the fight too?
Shoot maybe you think Manny should have agreed to a drug test between rounds 5 and 6??? Bullshit.
Manny agreed to above and beyond testing. He is allowed to draw the line somewhere.
Manny agreed to testing.
Manny agreed to testing.
I swear, it boggles me that anyone takes what any of these Mayweather's say seriously (with the exception of Jeff Mayweather) because all they spew is hot garbage. Its cool, and funny sometimes, but it seems like they are dead serious, and its really just funny because for some reason they can't seem to fathom the fact that there is a fighter who has been more succesful than Floyd in the ring, without the use of an enhancing drug.
Its really pathetic.
Its really pathetic.
Manny did not agree...well, maybe publicly he did!! Nobody can convince me that the so called pound 4 pound champ doesn't have more saying in who he well fight and when they'll fight. All you pac fans need to stop with that shit.
Nobody can say for sure that he is on some illegal shit BUT nobody can say that he isnt either...thats why he should of just agree to whatever drug testing bullshit.
Nobody can say for sure that he is on some illegal shit BUT nobody can say that he isnt either...thats why he should of just agree to whatever drug testing bullshit.
And the same thing can be said about every professional fighter on the planet today, and that ever lived...because NO ONE in the history of the sport has taken these tests prior to a professional boxing match.
PS I hope you're never on a damn jury with that guilty until proven innocent bullshit you spew.
PS I hope you're never on a damn jury with that guilty until proven innocent bullshit you spew.
"He can't beat Clottey without that shieet in him. Even though he was dehydrated, he couldn't beat De La Hoya without that shieet. He couldn't beat Ricky Hatton without that shiet and he couldn't beat Cotto without that sheit. I don't even think he could beat that kid from Chicago [David Diaz] without that sheit. He wouldn't be able to beat any of the guys without enhancement drugs, that's what I think. My belief is my opinion and you cannot change it. I know one thing, little Floyd will fight him fair," Mayweather Sr. said.
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