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ROACH: Mayweather won't last as long as Cotto
Pacquiao looking to Mayweather fight
By Dan Rafael
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It's been only two days since Manny Pacquiao's historic 12th-round knockout of Miguel Cotto on Saturday night in Las Vegas to win a welterweight title -- Pacquiao's record seventh in a seventh division -- but already the focus is firmly on a potential Pacquiao showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr.
And Freddie Roach, the trainer Pacquiao now refers to as "my master," is licking his chops for the fight after seeing Pacquiao cut through a big, strong welterweight like Cotto.
"I've thought about Mayweather for a long time now," Roach told ESPN.com from his Wild Card gym in Hollywood, Calif., on Monday. "He's the ultimate opponent. His style does pose some problems because he's very good at what he does. But after seeing Manny with Cotto, Manny showed he takes a punch well. We'll definitely knock Mayweather out. He'll break down. He can't stand up to Manny's pressure. He won't last as long as Cotto.
"I got a feeling Mayweather doesn't really want to fight Manny. When he says he wants 65 percent [of the revenue], that's like saying he doesn't want to fight," he said.
Roach had heard about Mayweather's first public comments about the possible mega-fight, which if made would almost certainly challenge the pay-per-view buy record of 2.4 million set by Mayweather's fight with Oscar De La Hoya in May 2007.
"The thing is with Pacquiao I don't see any versatility as a fighter," Mayweather, the former pound-for-pound king who ended a retirement by easily outpointing Juan Manuel Marquez on Sept. 19, said to England's Sky Sports. "He's a good puncher but just one-dimensional.
"I'm in a no-win situation. If I beat Manny Pacquiao you know what they are going to say? 'You are supposed to beat him, you are Floyd Mayweather, you are the bigger man.' If I knock him out they'll say, 'You're supposed to knock him out [because] he's been knocked out before.' I'm in a no-win situation and when I beat him no one is going to be surprised because he's been beaten before. Whatever I do to Pacquiao has been done before. He's been beaten on three occasions. And if I knock him out I don't want the world shouting because he's been knocked out twice before [as a flyweight in the 1990s]," he said.
Roach isn't buying Mayweather's talk, especially considering Pacquiao is obviously a far superior fighter now than he was during his days as a flyweight, when he was weight drained and was stopped twice, once in 1996 as a teen and again when he lost the title in 1999 at age 20.
"Floyd can say what he wants, but I saw Floyd get almost beat by Oscar and when he fought [Jose Luis] Castillo for the first time," Roach said.
Castillo lost the lightweight title to Mayweather via decision in 2002 in what was the toughest fight of Mayweather's career. Mayweather won more convincingly in the rematch later that year. Castillo was one of Pacquiao's main sparring partners to prepare him for the fight with Cotto, so Roach talked to Castillo about Mayweather.
"I talked to him about Mayweather when we had him in camp with us and he told me Pacquiao is faster and hits way harder than Mayweather," Roach said. "I thought Castillo won their first fight. He put pressure on Mayweather and broke him down. Whatever Floyd gives us, we'll take. Manny will him on the arms, the shoulders, wherever he can, and Mayweather will feel it. There's no way Mayweather can win the fight running, and that's what he does best."
If the fight happens, the date of March 13 has been floated. However, Roach thinks that is too soon.
Although Pacquiao beat Cotto, it was a physically demanding fight. Pacquiao suffered a broken right ear drum in addition to the cuts and bruises on his face, Roach said.
"May or June, in that ballpark," Roach said about when he thought the fight should happen. "March may be too close to get a big fight like that going. I'd like to see Manny take a rest and then get into it. We'll have a change in sparring partners and style because Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see.
"I would love to see Manny knock this guy out and then retire," he said. "There's no place to go after that. We will break Mayweather down. He's a fragile guy. I know he is hard to get to but we will get to him. Manny can match Mayweather's speed and he has better footwork and more balls."
Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.
Pacquiao looking to Mayweather fight
By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
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It's been only two days since Manny Pacquiao's historic 12th-round knockout of Miguel Cotto on Saturday night in Las Vegas to win a welterweight title -- Pacquiao's record seventh in a seventh division -- but already the focus is firmly on a potential Pacquiao showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr.
And Freddie Roach, the trainer Pacquiao now refers to as "my master," is licking his chops for the fight after seeing Pacquiao cut through a big, strong welterweight like Cotto.
"I've thought about Mayweather for a long time now," Roach told ESPN.com from his Wild Card gym in Hollywood, Calif., on Monday. "He's the ultimate opponent. His style does pose some problems because he's very good at what he does. But after seeing Manny with Cotto, Manny showed he takes a punch well. We'll definitely knock Mayweather out. He'll break down. He can't stand up to Manny's pressure. He won't last as long as Cotto.
"I got a feeling Mayweather doesn't really want to fight Manny. When he says he wants 65 percent [of the revenue], that's like saying he doesn't want to fight," he said.
Roach had heard about Mayweather's first public comments about the possible mega-fight, which if made would almost certainly challenge the pay-per-view buy record of 2.4 million set by Mayweather's fight with Oscar De La Hoya in May 2007.
"The thing is with Pacquiao I don't see any versatility as a fighter," Mayweather, the former pound-for-pound king who ended a retirement by easily outpointing Juan Manuel Marquez on Sept. 19, said to England's Sky Sports. "He's a good puncher but just one-dimensional.
"I'm in a no-win situation. If I beat Manny Pacquiao you know what they are going to say? 'You are supposed to beat him, you are Floyd Mayweather, you are the bigger man.' If I knock him out they'll say, 'You're supposed to knock him out [because] he's been knocked out before.' I'm in a no-win situation and when I beat him no one is going to be surprised because he's been beaten before. Whatever I do to Pacquiao has been done before. He's been beaten on three occasions. And if I knock him out I don't want the world shouting because he's been knocked out twice before [as a flyweight in the 1990s]," he said.
Roach isn't buying Mayweather's talk, especially considering Pacquiao is obviously a far superior fighter now than he was during his days as a flyweight, when he was weight drained and was stopped twice, once in 1996 as a teen and again when he lost the title in 1999 at age 20.
"Floyd can say what he wants, but I saw Floyd get almost beat by Oscar and when he fought [Jose Luis] Castillo for the first time," Roach said.
Castillo lost the lightweight title to Mayweather via decision in 2002 in what was the toughest fight of Mayweather's career. Mayweather won more convincingly in the rematch later that year. Castillo was one of Pacquiao's main sparring partners to prepare him for the fight with Cotto, so Roach talked to Castillo about Mayweather.
"I talked to him about Mayweather when we had him in camp with us and he told me Pacquiao is faster and hits way harder than Mayweather," Roach said. "I thought Castillo won their first fight. He put pressure on Mayweather and broke him down. Whatever Floyd gives us, we'll take. Manny will him on the arms, the shoulders, wherever he can, and Mayweather will feel it. There's no way Mayweather can win the fight running, and that's what he does best."
If the fight happens, the date of March 13 has been floated. However, Roach thinks that is too soon.
Although Pacquiao beat Cotto, it was a physically demanding fight. Pacquiao suffered a broken right ear drum in addition to the cuts and bruises on his face, Roach said.
"May or June, in that ballpark," Roach said about when he thought the fight should happen. "March may be too close to get a big fight like that going. I'd like to see Manny take a rest and then get into it. We'll have a change in sparring partners and style because Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see.
"I would love to see Manny knock this guy out and then retire," he said. "There's no place to go after that. We will break Mayweather down. He's a fragile guy. I know he is hard to get to but we will get to him. Manny can match Mayweather's speed and he has better footwork and more balls."
Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.
Mayweather wants 65% because he would drive the numbers alone. Whether people tune in to see him win or lose, he will ultimately bring in more viewers than the Cotto-Pacman fight every thought about having. Call it being a pussy or whatever, dudes just bein a business man. If ya'll could do it, you would as well and dont say you wouldnt. If your gonna put a perfect record up and possibly lose, your gonna want to at least make bread.
^^People are saying Pacquiao vs Cotto did 1.3 - 1.4 million buys. That's not final, but if that's remotely close, Maywether & anyone else should STFU about him being the draw. Saying Mayweather would draw the numbers alone is pretty stupid to say at this point. Pacquiao is a certified star now, no denying it. 50/50 or at worst maybe 55/45 in favor of Mayweather. Or if he really wants to be a man do a 60% to the WINNER if he's so confident he'll whoop manny's ass.
I understand that too, but I'm sayin people will be ordering just to see Pacquiao as well.
If Pacquiao's PPV numbers against cotto really did 1.3 - 1.4 million, that beats Mayweazthers recent PPV by 3-4 hundred thousand. That's pretty significant.
It takes two to tango and both of them are equally responsible for the success the fight will have imo. I mean what is everyone talking about? What do all the fans want? Maywweather vs Pacquiao. That's two names not one
If Pacquiao's PPV numbers against cotto really did 1.3 - 1.4 million, that beats Mayweazthers recent PPV by 3-4 hundred thousand. That's pretty significant.
It takes two to tango and both of them are equally responsible for the success the fight will have imo. I mean what is everyone talking about? What do all the fans want? Maywweather vs Pacquiao. That's two names not one
not no more mayn, theres a new star in town! this last fight goin do almost half a milly more than mayweathers fight so he got nothin to say bout bein a bigger draw. on top of that the casual boxing fan would much rather see manny go out there and try to take a mufuckas head off then watch mayweather dissect his opponent.
what you said was that mayweather would bring in more viewers and that he would drive the numbers alone. do you know how many people were upset they even paid to watch his last 2 fights (dela hoya, marquez). dude is a great boxer (not fighter) and at the same time he don't give a fuck if he pleases the viewers or not. he would not be the main draw if he were to fight pacquaio that's all im sayin and if he tried to pull some 60/40 shit i think it's safe to say he's not willing to gamble with his perfect record.
First of all, please learn to puncuate sentences. Thats hard as fuck to read bro. So what your telling me is, that Pacquaio is a bigger star than Mayweather and will bring in more viewers than him? I'm gonna kindly disagree like I stated, I know alot of families that order mayweather fights just to the streak end or continue. These said people dont even like boxing. So, Mayweather is driving in NON boxing fan purchases. IMO thats bigger than Pacquaio.
^^^ i don't give a fuck about no punctuation it takes me long enough to type. back on subject your on one bruh if you really think the pretty boy will bring in bigger numbers. didnt you read what we put up? the fight this weekend will have sold almost half a milly MORE than mayweather's last fight which was even more HYPED because he came out of retirement. the casual boxing fans will pay to see manny because of his crowd pleasing fights and the history he's been making the past couple years, and to see him finally shut mayweather the hell up. you really think the casual boxing fan would rather pay to see mayweather's streak really just end or continue? cmon now stop foolin yourself.
All most all of the people that paid for floyd vs marquez,hatton & de la hoya they pay to see mayweether get his ass beat down nobody like that bitch he suckz he boring . If people think they pay cuz mayweather a great exciting fighter they smoking crack.manny should get a 60/40 . I never met a mayweather fan
Mayweather Baits Pacquiao "Say You Want it Manny"
Las Vegas, NV - Floyd Mayweather, who listened to several comments made by Manny Pacquiao's promoter and trainer about a possible match-up between the two fighters, still has yet to hear Manny Pacquiao himself say he wants to fight him.
"Manny Pacquiao is the fighter and every time someone asks him if he wants to fight me, he says it is up to his promoter, he's going to take a vacation, whatever the answer is. I have yet to hear him actually say, 'yes I want to fight Mayweather.' We are the fighters and if one fighter is talking about fighting another fighter, then they should just come out and say it. Manny Pacquiao doesn't say anything directly about fighting me because he might just know it's not a fight he can win.
"He said during an interview he did leading up to his fight that he didn't think I wanted to fight him and that boxing for me was just a business and I wasn't interested in a good fight. But again, he never said during that interview that he would fight me. Why is he talking about what I won't do instead of what he wants to do? Plain and simple, it's because he knows he can't beat me under any circumstances.
"Less than an hour after his fight Saturday night the talk turns back to me. Their whole promotion was just a Mayweather sweepstakes. They know it and anyone could figure that out. Why, because my name kept coming up and I didn't even say anything. Even when he was interviewed on ESPN by Brian Kenny, he was asked about fighting me and what did he say? Not 'yes I want to fight Mayweather or bring it on.' But no! He said 'hum, ahh, well talk to my promoter.'
"The world is much more intrigued by the thought of someone fighting me who can beat me. That is what everyone wants to see and the boxing world is trying to find that guy. Manny Pacquaio's people have done a good job of creating an image of him to be this unbelievable fighter and now the so-called guy to beat me. But like all the rest, he's not the one.
"There is boxing and then there is me. The rest are just falling in line behind me or are trying to get in line to fight me. And that includes Manny Pacquiao too.
"Tell Manny Pacquiao to be his own man and stop letting everyone, including his loudmouth trainer, talk for him. I am my own boss, speak for myself and tell it like it is. If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight me, all he has to do is step up to the plate and say it himself."
Las Vegas, NV - Floyd Mayweather, who listened to several comments made by Manny Pacquiao's promoter and trainer about a possible match-up between the two fighters, still has yet to hear Manny Pacquiao himself say he wants to fight him.
"Manny Pacquiao is the fighter and every time someone asks him if he wants to fight me, he says it is up to his promoter, he's going to take a vacation, whatever the answer is. I have yet to hear him actually say, 'yes I want to fight Mayweather.' We are the fighters and if one fighter is talking about fighting another fighter, then they should just come out and say it. Manny Pacquiao doesn't say anything directly about fighting me because he might just know it's not a fight he can win.
"He said during an interview he did leading up to his fight that he didn't think I wanted to fight him and that boxing for me was just a business and I wasn't interested in a good fight. But again, he never said during that interview that he would fight me. Why is he talking about what I won't do instead of what he wants to do? Plain and simple, it's because he knows he can't beat me under any circumstances.
"Less than an hour after his fight Saturday night the talk turns back to me. Their whole promotion was just a Mayweather sweepstakes. They know it and anyone could figure that out. Why, because my name kept coming up and I didn't even say anything. Even when he was interviewed on ESPN by Brian Kenny, he was asked about fighting me and what did he say? Not 'yes I want to fight Mayweather or bring it on.' But no! He said 'hum, ahh, well talk to my promoter.'
"The world is much more intrigued by the thought of someone fighting me who can beat me. That is what everyone wants to see and the boxing world is trying to find that guy. Manny Pacquaio's people have done a good job of creating an image of him to be this unbelievable fighter and now the so-called guy to beat me. But like all the rest, he's not the one.
"There is boxing and then there is me. The rest are just falling in line behind me or are trying to get in line to fight me. And that includes Manny Pacquiao too.
"Tell Manny Pacquiao to be his own man and stop letting everyone, including his loudmouth trainer, talk for him. I am my own boss, speak for myself and tell it like it is. If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight me, all he has to do is step up to the plate and say it himself."
^^^ i'm tired of hearing that mufucka, his pops, and his dopefiend lookin uncle talk. they are all full of shit. didnt mayweather hear manny after the sayin it's up to my promoter he said he'll fight anybody. mayweather is full of shit and when asked numerous times if he'd fight pacquiao he has never answered directly, but instead starts talkin about money. that fool is pussy straight up.
Im gonna laugh my ass off if and when Mayweather beats Pac and all you guys arent talkin shit anymore. I can see why people dont like Mayweather but everybody was talking shit before the Marquez fight sayin he was gonna beat mayweathers ass and he didnt.
we'll see what happens if this fight takes place. It seems like they are both fuckin pussies about it.
we'll see what happens if this fight takes place. It seems like they are both fuckin pussies about it.