Manny Pacquiao vs Joshua Clottey
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Huh? Shoe Depot? I've never heard of that store... I know you could have come better than that, that was weak. Besides what does working at the shoe depot have to do with this subject? We're talking about a fighter who cried after getting taxed and you want to talk about promotions at the shoe store? WTF?
as a sports fan you should know that all the true greats absolute hate losing. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, etc. It tears them up inside to lose and you can see in their eyes how hard defeat is for guys like that. Pac was no different. Nor is mayweather. Mayweather has never been in a war in his life, pac vs moarals I was a fucking war (you act as if pac simply got his ass beat, watch the fight (you probably haven't)) and tell me it wasn't a good ass fight).
Is that how fucking petty you're garbage ass arguments have gotten Tony?
You're hating on the guy because he cried after a loss?
Try putting your blood, sweat, tears, guts, fear, anger, and joy into something and see if you don't get a little emotional.
And as far as you questioning whether or not Floyd Mayweather Jr. would cry in defeat.
You need to realize that Floyd's whole mystique now revolves around his 0. So much emphasis has been placed on the fact that he's undefeated that it almost seems that he feels that a loss would negate everything he's done in his career.
That's a lot of pressure, and I'm sure if the day comes that he does take a loss...he might not cry directly after the fight, but you can bet your ass he's going to be crying alone daily for a long long time.
You're hating on the guy because he cried after a loss?
Try putting your blood, sweat, tears, guts, fear, anger, and joy into something and see if you don't get a little emotional.
And as far as you questioning whether or not Floyd Mayweather Jr. would cry in defeat.
You need to realize that Floyd's whole mystique now revolves around his 0. So much emphasis has been placed on the fact that he's undefeated that it almost seems that he feels that a loss would negate everything he's done in his career.
That's a lot of pressure, and I'm sure if the day comes that he does take a loss...he might not cry directly after the fight, but you can bet your ass he's going to be crying alone daily for a long long time.
I aint buyin this story, but here's Clottey's excuse for losing. I personally believe he was paid off to lose so not mess up Pacquiaos chances at Mayweather or Mosley, but that's my opinion:
Exclusive: Joshua Clottey Speaks On The Pacquiao Fight - "People Claim I Just Wanted To Protect Myself, And That Was Not The Case"
clottey vs pac by James Slater - Though he is understandably upset at not having won the biggest fight of his pro career on Saturday (against pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao, if anyone needed reminding!), former IBF welterweight champion Joshua Clottey was kind enough to give me the following interview earlier today. Speaking on the distance fight with Pac-Man, his own future in the sport and what he feels may happen if and when Pacquiao faces Floyd Mayweather Junior in the ring, "The Grand Master" had the following things to say today:
James Slater: It's always a pleasure to speak with you, Joshua; especially so soon after the fight with Manny Pacquiao. Though you of course wanted the win, many people give you great credit for the way you toughed it out to the very end. Are you proud of your performance?
Joshua Clottey: Well, I wouldn't say I am proud of what I did, because I expected to win the fight. You know, boxing a lot of times is all about what goes on behind the scenes. I had the runs going into the fight. I had an upset stomach and I had to go to the bathroom twice in the dressing room. I felt weak on the way to the ring and it wasn't my day - I have to take the fight as a bad day for me..
J.S: I did read on a web site how you had a stomach problem, with something you ate. That obviously contributed to your loss?
J.C: I had an upset stomach, exactly. I'm not making any excuses either. I feel sad now, because of how I promised my people in Ghana that I would win. I felt great going from the hotel [to the fight arena] but as soon as I got to the dressing room I felt weak. All my energy was shut down in the fight. It was a very bad day for me.
J.S: When you did let your punches fly - your left jab, your right hand and your left uppercut - you scored well. What do you say to those people who say you never threw enough punches in the fight?
J.C: A lot of people claim I just wanted to protect myself in the ring, and that was not the case. Like I say, the behind the scenes things had a lot to do with what happened in the fight.
J.S: Pacquiao hit you with a lot of wicked body punches - did he ever hurt you?
J.C: He never hurt me in the fight. The reason is, I trained so hard for this fight. I was weak in the fight and couldn't give my best, but even then Pacquiao couldn't stop me.
J.S You did better against Pac-Man than Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya did, and you also proved Freddie Roach wrong regarding his 9th-round KO prediction. Does that give you satisfaction?
J.C: I knew I'd fight Pacquiao and prove Freddie Roach wrong [about his KO prediction for Manny]. I felt nothing in the fight. But still, I feel sad because I wanted to win the fight. I learnt a lot in this fight; I didn't know how to throw a million punches [like Pacquaio did], but if I'd have been able to fight the way I did against Cotto, I believe I'd have been able to shut Pacquiao down. But I was in pain in the ring, I was weak and had a runny stomach.
J.S: And did you not having your regular trainer have a big effect on you?
J.C: You know, I don't want to speak about my trainer [for this fight]. I will only say I love my regular trainer in Ghana.
J.S: You once again acquitted yourself well and proved yourself to be one of the toughest welterweights out there. Will you fight again?
J.C: Of course. I'm not going to retire. I have a good couple of years to be in the sport, and I'm on top of my game. I am sad about this performance, but I don't want to retire. I'm eager to get back and fight, and, as I've said, I only want to fight the best.
J.S: In your opinion, if Pacquiao ever fights Floyd Mayweather Junior, who will win?
J.C: The way Pacquiao fights, he will give any fighter problems - the way he throws so many punches. A lot of fighters throw a lot of punches, but Pacquiao throws them with energy; and he can take a good punch too. I don't think Mayweather should fight Pacquiao at a catch-weight. If he does, he's not gonna beat him because of the energy he [Pac] has. Pacquiao has so many advantages anyway. If I didn't have the good defence I have, he would have knocked me out. My defense allowed me to make it to the end of the 12-rounds, but that was not my [sole] intention. But with my [weakened] condition I had to protect myself.
J.S: Thank you so much for the interview, Champ. We look forward to seeing you back in the ring this year.
J.C: Okay, thank you. Bye.
Exclusive: Joshua Clottey Speaks On The Pacquiao Fight - "People Claim I Just Wanted To Protect Myself, And That Was Not The Case"
clottey vs pac by James Slater - Though he is understandably upset at not having won the biggest fight of his pro career on Saturday (against pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao, if anyone needed reminding!), former IBF welterweight champion Joshua Clottey was kind enough to give me the following interview earlier today. Speaking on the distance fight with Pac-Man, his own future in the sport and what he feels may happen if and when Pacquiao faces Floyd Mayweather Junior in the ring, "The Grand Master" had the following things to say today:
James Slater: It's always a pleasure to speak with you, Joshua; especially so soon after the fight with Manny Pacquiao. Though you of course wanted the win, many people give you great credit for the way you toughed it out to the very end. Are you proud of your performance?
Joshua Clottey: Well, I wouldn't say I am proud of what I did, because I expected to win the fight. You know, boxing a lot of times is all about what goes on behind the scenes. I had the runs going into the fight. I had an upset stomach and I had to go to the bathroom twice in the dressing room. I felt weak on the way to the ring and it wasn't my day - I have to take the fight as a bad day for me..
J.S: I did read on a web site how you had a stomach problem, with something you ate. That obviously contributed to your loss?
J.C: I had an upset stomach, exactly. I'm not making any excuses either. I feel sad now, because of how I promised my people in Ghana that I would win. I felt great going from the hotel [to the fight arena] but as soon as I got to the dressing room I felt weak. All my energy was shut down in the fight. It was a very bad day for me.
J.S: When you did let your punches fly - your left jab, your right hand and your left uppercut - you scored well. What do you say to those people who say you never threw enough punches in the fight?
J.C: A lot of people claim I just wanted to protect myself in the ring, and that was not the case. Like I say, the behind the scenes things had a lot to do with what happened in the fight.
J.S: Pacquiao hit you with a lot of wicked body punches - did he ever hurt you?
J.C: He never hurt me in the fight. The reason is, I trained so hard for this fight. I was weak in the fight and couldn't give my best, but even then Pacquiao couldn't stop me.
J.S You did better against Pac-Man than Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya did, and you also proved Freddie Roach wrong regarding his 9th-round KO prediction. Does that give you satisfaction?
J.C: I knew I'd fight Pacquiao and prove Freddie Roach wrong [about his KO prediction for Manny]. I felt nothing in the fight. But still, I feel sad because I wanted to win the fight. I learnt a lot in this fight; I didn't know how to throw a million punches [like Pacquaio did], but if I'd have been able to fight the way I did against Cotto, I believe I'd have been able to shut Pacquiao down. But I was in pain in the ring, I was weak and had a runny stomach.
J.S: And did you not having your regular trainer have a big effect on you?
J.C: You know, I don't want to speak about my trainer [for this fight]. I will only say I love my regular trainer in Ghana.
J.S: You once again acquitted yourself well and proved yourself to be one of the toughest welterweights out there. Will you fight again?
J.C: Of course. I'm not going to retire. I have a good couple of years to be in the sport, and I'm on top of my game. I am sad about this performance, but I don't want to retire. I'm eager to get back and fight, and, as I've said, I only want to fight the best.
J.S: In your opinion, if Pacquiao ever fights Floyd Mayweather Junior, who will win?
J.C: The way Pacquiao fights, he will give any fighter problems - the way he throws so many punches. A lot of fighters throw a lot of punches, but Pacquiao throws them with energy; and he can take a good punch too. I don't think Mayweather should fight Pacquiao at a catch-weight. If he does, he's not gonna beat him because of the energy he [Pac] has. Pacquiao has so many advantages anyway. If I didn't have the good defence I have, he would have knocked me out. My defense allowed me to make it to the end of the 12-rounds, but that was not my [sole] intention. But with my [weakened] condition I had to protect myself.
J.S: Thank you so much for the interview, Champ. We look forward to seeing you back in the ring this year.
J.C: Okay, thank you. Bye.
I always put my all into everything I do (when competing), but I wouldn't cry like a baby if I lost. We don't know if Floyd would cry if he lost but he has to lose first and then maybe he would cry, maybe he wouldn't.
I wonder if Pacman would cry (again) if he lost to Floyd if they ever fight. There's a chance because he has cried before.
You seem to be getting somewhat emotional, are you crying as you post?
I wonder if Pacman would cry (again) if he lost to Floyd if they ever fight. There's a chance because he has cried before.
You seem to be getting somewhat emotional, are you crying as you post?
so you have a problem with pac crying when lost but not floyd crying like a baby when he wins? lmao
Fast forward to 4:30 (first you can see Arturo Gatti crying after he got whooped, is he a bitch tony??), then at 4:40 you can see floyd crying, rolling around on the ground like his mama just died, so that's two men in the ring, crying at the same time:
Fast forward to 4:30 (first you can see Arturo Gatti crying after he got whooped, is he a bitch tony??), then at 4:40 you can see floyd crying, rolling around on the ground like his mama just died, so that's two men in the ring, crying at the same time:
Yeah, some other "unbiased" fight fans feel it was was fixed too...
Clottey could have drank some gatorade or something. Maybe the diarrhea did bother him, but that sounds fishy. I mean what are the chances of you getting the runs right before the fight? This was his chance to show the world who Clottey was and he blew it by not getting off and coming to win. Yeah he probably didn't want to be the spoiler and make his promoter Bob Arum mad.
Clottey could have drank some gatorade or something. Maybe the diarrhea did bother him, but that sounds fishy. I mean what are the chances of you getting the runs right before the fight? This was his chance to show the world who Clottey was and he blew it by not getting off and coming to win. Yeah he probably didn't want to be the spoiler and make his promoter Bob Arum mad.
and still you haven't watched the fight yet you keep saying this...
It's not that uncommon. Roberto Duran used the same excuse when he lost to sugar ray leonard in the famous "no mas" fight.
I'm not saying that's what happened to clottey, but nerves plays a big role in how your stomach can behave. Sometimes people get so nervous they get the shits.
There is also a video of a fighter that literally shit his pants in the ring and quit (forget his name though).
Nah man, Clottey hurt his career a lot more after this performance. If the fight was fixed, why not go get KO'd in a specific round, why not quit after a certain round, etc.? The odds were in favor of clottey going the distance, if the fight was fixed he/they could have gone out in a specific round and made a ton of money of that alone.
Look man, like naner & myself already said this was no different than Paul Williams vs Winky Wright. You got a guy that has that shell defense and doesn't throw many punches against a guy that throws a ton of punches, you know who's going to win. Winky Wright got dominated in the same fashion clottey got dominated, because of styles.
It's not that uncommon. Roberto Duran used the same excuse when he lost to sugar ray leonard in the famous "no mas" fight.
I'm not saying that's what happened to clottey, but nerves plays a big role in how your stomach can behave. Sometimes people get so nervous they get the shits.
There is also a video of a fighter that literally shit his pants in the ring and quit (forget his name though).
Nah man, Clottey hurt his career a lot more after this performance. If the fight was fixed, why not go get KO'd in a specific round, why not quit after a certain round, etc.? The odds were in favor of clottey going the distance, if the fight was fixed he/they could have gone out in a specific round and made a ton of money of that alone.
Look man, like naner & myself already said this was no different than Paul Williams vs Winky Wright. You got a guy that has that shell defense and doesn't throw many punches against a guy that throws a ton of punches, you know who's going to win. Winky Wright got dominated in the same fashion clottey got dominated, because of styles.
So was Gatti a "hoe" for crying tony?
You might not remember that doesn't mean it wasn't reality. Kobe cried SEVERAL times after losing playoff games in his career, walkin away teary eyed. There are COUNTLESS other athletes that have done the same in defeat, like I said floyd is cut from the same cloth, if he lost to mosley or pac or anyone he would be devastated because boxing is his life and he trains hard as fuck.
You might not remember that doesn't mean it wasn't reality. Kobe cried SEVERAL times after losing playoff games in his career, walkin away teary eyed. There are COUNTLESS other athletes that have done the same in defeat, like I said floyd is cut from the same cloth, if he lost to mosley or pac or anyone he would be devastated because boxing is his life and he trains hard as fuck.
