Manny Pacquiao and the “Something to Hide” Fallacy

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By Steve Lewis: We still hear it, and once again, Roger Mayweather has gone on the air and lost more credibility when he told the folks at the Boxing Truth Radio Show that Manny Pacquiao was on “A-side meth,” a drug that apparently makes people literally bulletproof, according to the genius that is Roger Mayweather.

And Roger’s often-repeated mantra, which a lot of Pacquiao detractors have bought into, was: If you have nothing to hide, why not take the test?

So that has apparently become the lazy and easy $40M question. And the Pacquiao detractors will say it again. “Manny must have something to hide if he’s willing to blow off $40M due to a simple blood test.”

The fallacy in that thought is that there is nothing to hide. People think if the blood test would be taken, Pacquiao would be caught red-handed. But as these same detractors would argue, you are not going to catch anything because a person can conceivably flush out and cycle off the drugs out of the system within a couple of days.

What they probably meant was that Pacquiao does not want to take the Olympic-style drug testing because he won’t be able to shoot up any PEDs during the upcoming training, not that he’s trying to hide something that’s currently in his system. So it is a misstatement to say and argue that Pacquiao has something to hide. It is more accurate to say that he does not want any nefarious plans of his being foiled (future tense, folks, not present tense).

But even then, to say that Pacquiao’s refusal to be blood-tested is because Olympic-style testing would prevent him from carrying out his plans of shooting up is ludicrous. Seriously, do you really think that someone who has built such a reputation in and out of the ring would still chance playing around with PEDs in light of the intense scrutiny and spotlight being placed on this blood testing issue? Pacquiao would be foolish to even attempt it, given the attention on this matter. It would be one thing is this was an up and coming hungry fighter with nothing to lose, who hasn’t yet received the fat paycheck. But this is Manny Pacquiao: well-documented humanitarian, aspiring politician, and among the most revered athletes in the world – one who is already well compensated and is not in financial straits. There is no need for Pacquiao to do so, particularly against Floyd Mayweather, who is not noted as being a power puncher. Resorting to PEDs to defend against Mayweather’s “pitty-pats” and “peck-and-run” tactics would be highly unnecessary.

If there was any grain of truth to what Roger Mayweather and the rest of his cohorts are saying, you would see a whole lot more boxers from the Philippines taking advantage of this so-called “A-side meth.” Heck, Bobby Pacquiao would be in the top 10 pound-for-pound rankings if he could make himself “bulletproof” like brother Manny. Instead, he is relegated to just being “Manny’s brother.”
 
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Maybe pac is holding out on his brother.LOL

Now if pac decides to fight mayweather in the near future that shit will be supect to me.
 
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LOL@ A-side meth. Roger Mayweather is a crackhead. He literally said Filipino's were bulletproof because of a-side meth, I heard the whole interview. Oh well his dumb ass missed his court date and he's going to go to jail for choking that woman

 
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I Kinda agree with the crackhead. Not about all filipinos being on steriods, but if you got nothing to hide take the damn test and make the fight happen. I also think that mayweather didn't really care about making the fight happen.
 
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if floyd wanted the fight so bad it was right there, he could have compromised more etc. Both sides could have done more, but they didn't. So we get to see them fight mosley and clottey and hopefully, they'll meet at the end of the year.

BTW, Pacquiao tried to get waivers for an EYE TEST before a fight because he said it was too invasive. To me that goes to show what type of person he is, he really don't like shit done to his body during training at all.
 
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^ I agree they both are at fault for the fight being droped. One was scared to get his ass beat and the other...well you know was hiding something.haha

Please explain to me why pac would stop negotiations but decide to make the fight happen at the end of the year? Do you understand why I think he has something to hide?
Do you think mayweather and his camp wont accuse him of some shady shit the next time!! I bet he will agree to the steriod test next time.

Eye test to invasive what kinda shit is that? Don't all boxers have to do that before any fight?
 

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it's called being superstitious. most religious people are and manny is very religious.

what the mayweather groupies don't seem to get, is that pussy boy never wanted to fight pac. as soon as the fight was announced I said he'd find a way to weasel out of it and he did. no surprise there. pussy boy then tried to set up fights with some other bums, but came to realize he wouldn't make a dime. so he was then forced to fight mosely.
 
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Eye test to invasive what kinda shit is that? Don't all boxers have to do that before any fight?
I don't know if that's part of the normal routine or not, all I know is before a fight pacquiao made a fuss about having to take an eye test and tried to get it waived because he was concerned it was too invasive and he didn't want to mess up his training. That's the type of person we're dealing with here.

I mean the whole reason he agreed to a 24 day cutoff (and not some other random number) is because that's the amount of days he gave blood prior to the ricky hatton fight and missed a day of sparring, so he's cool with that.

Please explain to me why pac would stop negotiations but decide to make the fight happen at the end of the year? Do you understand why I think he has something to hide?
Do you think mayweather and his camp wont accuse him of some shady shit the next time!! I bet he will agree to the steriod test next time.
I can understand why you would think he has something to hide, that's fine, just understand that speculating something doesn't prove or necessarily mean anything. Personally I think at the end of the year they will fight and they will agree to some type of terms because frankly, there isn't any else to fight.
 
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no surprise there. pussy boy then tried to set up fights with some other bums, but came to realize he wouldn't make a dime. so he was then forced to fight mosely.
And he STILL hasn't signed the contract, even the people representing him are getting concerned:

(from today)
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=25082


Mayweather Has Yet To Sign, Schaefer Getting Frustrated


By Mark Vester

WBA welterweight champion Shane Mosley has already signed his portion of the contract for a May 1 title defense against Floyd Mayweather Jr. The terms have been agreed upon. Mosley signed last Friday. Everyone involved is waiting on Mayweather to sign his portion of the deal.

For reasons unknown, Mayweather has yet to sign the contract. Richard Schaefer, CEO for Golden Boy Promotions, is frustrated because until they receive a signed contact from Mayweather, they are unable to move forward with any fight related promotion for the event. Schaefer doesn't know what's going on.

"He still hasn't signed. I am so frustrated," Schaefer said to ESPN.com. "I wanted both guys to go down to the Super Bowl in Miami to do some promotional stuff. I don't know what Floyd is waiting for. I have no clue. I have a signed contract from Shane on my desk. I have nothing from Floyd."

"I always tell you, a signed deal is a done deal. It will only be done when Floyd signs, and that hasn't happened yet. I don't know of any deal terms that are not agreed to. I don't understand it."
 
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He is probably holding out getting them anxious and frustrated and then he will ask for more money since they are already knee deep and just want to "make it happen"...and he'll get it. Basically forcing Mosley to settle for less.

That's my best guess.