L.A. Times To Name 2PACs KILLER in special 2 part report. >READ<

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May 1, 2002
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this all started with an article from the NY Post


http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=1171


LA Times To Reveal Pac's Killer:

By Houston Williams
Date: 9/4/2002 12:22 PM

According to Page Six of the New York Post, The Los Angeles Times plans to disclose hip-hop martyr Tupac Shakur’s killer by name in a special report tomorrow (September 6). The two-part feature,which runs Friday and Saturday, will be released in accord with the 6th anniversary of the rapper’s murder.

The feature will detail the results of an ongoing investigation into the rapper's 1996 murder in Las Vegas. Chuck Phillips, an investigative reporter, said through a slew of exclusive interviews, the periodical came to conclusions inaccessible to the LAPD. He said interviews police officers intricately involved with the murder case and even gang affiliates who have never broken their code of silence before this report.

Phillips said to The Post, "We're going to name the killer and there's a definite East Coast connection."
 
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aint no east west shit, who gives a fuck who killed 2pac hes dead and gone, fools need to let the dead rest,who ever it was i hope got away, no need to be snitchen n shit, all that east west shit is stupid as fuck, and fuck anybody thats down with it!
 
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Im not sure if this is going to turn out to be more bullshit, but we will see... I found it weird that one paper is doin an article about what another papers plans on having in the paper.. Someone should scan the posts article and post it...
 
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I just found this... Personally, I feel that their just tryin to stir up some shit... Alot of it sounds too unbelievable...

Either way, here is the supposed article as it is going to appear in the L.A. Times...

The Thug Life and Death (Las Vegas)
By Chuck Philips
(c) 2002, Los Angeles Times
LAS VEGAS — The city’s neon lights vibrated in the polished hood of
the black BMW as it cruised up Las Vegas Boulevard.
The man in the passenger seat was instantly recognizable. Fans
lined the streets, waving, snapping photos, begging Tupac Shakur for
his autograph. Cops were everywhere, smiling.
The BMW 750 sedan, with rap magnate Marion “Suge” Knight at the
wheel, was leading a procession of luxury vehicles past the MGM Grand
Hotel and Caesars Palace, on their way to a hot new nightclub. It was
after 11 on a Saturday night — Sept. 7, 1996. The caravan paused at a
crowded intersection a block from the Strip.
Shakur flirted with a carful of women — unaware that a white
Cadillac had quietly pulled up beside him. A hand emerged from the
Cadillac. In it was a semiautomatic pistol, aimed at Shakur.
Six years later, the killing of the world’s most famous rap star
remains officially unsolved. Las Vegas police have never made an
arrest. Speculation and wild theories continue to flourish in the
music media and among Shakur’s followers. One is that Knight, owner of
Shakur’s record label, arranged the killing so he could exploit the
rapper’s martyrdom commercially. Another persistent legend is that
Shakur faked his own death to escape the pressures of stardom.
A yearlong investigation by the Los Angeles Times reconstructed the
crime and the events leading up to it. Evidence gathered by the paper
indicates:
The shooting was carried out by a Compton, Calif., gang called the
Southside Crips to avenge the beating of one of its members by Shakur
a few hours earlier.
Orlando Anderson, the Crip whom Shakur had attacked, fired the
fatal shots. Las Vegas police discounted Anderson as a suspect and
interviewed him only once, and then briefly. He was later killed in an
unrelated gang shooting.
The murder weapon was supplied by New York rapper Notorious B.I.G.,
who agreed to pay the Crips $1 million for killing Shakur. Notorious
B.I.G. and Shakur had been feuding for more than a year, exchanging
insults on recordings and at award shows and concerts. B.I.G. was
gunned down six months later in Los Angeles. That killing also remains
unsolved.
Before they died, Notorious B.I.G. and Anderson denied any role in
Shakur’s death. *(Cont. next post)*
 
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***Cont. from above***


This account of what they and others did that night is
based on police affidavits and court documents as well as interviews
with investigators, witnesses to the crime and members of the
Southside Crips who had never before discussed the killing outside the
gang.
Fearing retribution, they agreed to be interviewed only if their
names were not revealed.
The slaying silenced one of modern music’s most eloquent voices — a
ghetto poet whose tales of urban alienation captivated young people of
all races and backgrounds. The 25-year-old Shakur had helped elevate
rap from a crude street fad to a complex art form.
Tupac Amaru Shakur was born in 1971 into a family of black
revolutionaries and named after a martyred Incan warrior. Radical
politics shaped his upbringing and the rebellious tone of much of his
music.
His godfather, Black Panther leader Elmer “Geronimo” Pratt, spent
27 years in prison for a robbery-murder that he insisted he did not
commit. Pratt was later freed after a judge ruled that prosecutors
concealed evidence favorable to the defendant.
Shakur’s stepfather, Black Panther leader Mutulu Shakur, was on the
FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list until the early 1980s, when he was
imprisoned for robbery and murder. His mother, Afeni Shakur, also a
Black Panther, was charged with conspiring to blow up a block of New
York department stores — and acquitted a month before the rapper was
born.
Shakur grew up in tough neighborhoods and homeless shelters in New
York and Baltimore. He exhibited creative talent as a child and was
admitted to the Baltimore School for the Arts, where he studied
ballet, poetry, theater and literature.
In 1988, his mother sent him to live with a family friend in the
San Francisco Bay Area to escape gang violence in Baltimore. Living in
a tough neighborhood north of Oakland, he joined the rap group Digital
Underground and signed a solo record deal in 1991.
Shakur’s debut album, “2Pacalypse Now,” sparked a political
firestorm. The lyrics were filled with vivid imagery of violence by
and against police. A car thief who murdered a Texas state trooper
said the lyrics incited him to kill. Law enforcement groups and
politicians denounced Shakur. Then-Vice President Dan Quayle said the
rapper’s music “has no place in our society.”
Shakur’s recordings explored gang violence, drug dealing, police
brutality, teenage pregnancy, single motherhood and racism. As his
stature as a rapper grew, he pursued an acting career, drawing
admiring reviews for his performances in “Juice” and other films.
But he never put what he called the “thug life” behind him.
During a 1993 concert in Michigan, he attacked a local rapper with
a baseball bat and was sentenced to 10 days in jail. In Los Angeles,
he was convicted of assaulting a music video producer. In New York, a
19-year-old fan accused Shakur and three of his friends of sexually
assaulting her.
While on trial in that case, the rapper was ambushed in a Manhattan
recording studio, shot five times and robbed of his jewelry. Shakur
later said Notorious B.I.G. and his associates were behind the attack.
Shakur, convicted of sexual abuse, was serving a 4 1/2-year prison
term when he was visited by Suge Knight, founder of Death Row Records
in Los Angeles. Knight offered to finance an appeal of his conviction
if Shakur would sign a recording contract with Death Row.
Shakur accepted the offer and was released from prison in 1995 on a
$1.4 million appellate bond posted by Knight. Hours later, Shakur
entered a Los Angeles studio to record “All Eyez on Me.” The double
CD sold more than 5 million copies, transforming Shakur into a
superstar.
On Sept. 7, 1996, Shakur, still out on bond, traveled to Las Vegas
to attend a championship boxing match between Mike Tyson and Bruce
Seldon at the MGM Grand Hotel.
The sold-out arena was jammed with high rollers . The fight also
attracted an assortment of underworld figures: mobsters from Chicago,
drug dealers from New York, street gangs from Los Angeles.
Shakur arrived around 8:30 p.m. accompanied by armed bodyguards
from the Mob Piru Bloods, a Compton street gang whose members worked
for Knight’s Death Row Records. Shakur and Knight sat in the front
row, smoking cigars, signing autographs and waving to fans.
“Knock You Out,” a song Shakur had written in honor of Tyson,
blasted over the loudspeakers as the boxer entered the ring. Tyson
flattened his opponent so quickly that many patrons never made it to
their seats.
After congratulating Tyson, Shakur, Knight and a handful of
bodyguards in silk suits headed for the exit. In the MGM Grand lobby,
one of Shakur’s bodyguards noticed a member of the rival Southside
Crips lingering near a bank of elevators.
The hoodlum standing in the lobby was Orlando “Baby Lane”
Anderson, 21, a Crip who had recently helped his gang beat and rob one
of Shakur’s bodyguards at a mall in Lakewood, Calif. Anderson had a
string of arrests for robbery, assault and other offenses. Compton
police suspected him in at least one gang killing.
After the beating of Shakur’s bodyguard, Anderson had dared to rip
a rare Death Row medallion from the man’s neck — an affront to
Knight’s honor and a slight to the Bloods.
The Bloods had been fuming for weeks, waiting to exact their
revenge. Now, unexpectedly, there was Anderson, standing before them.
Shakur charged the Crip. “You from the South?” he asked.
Before Anderson could answer, Shakur punched him. His bodyguards
jumped in, pounding and kicking Anderson to the ground. Knight joined
in too — just before security guards broke up the 30-second melee,
which was captured by a security camera.
Shakur and his entourage stomped triumphantly across the casino
floor on their way out of the hotel. They walked half a block down the
Strip to the Luxor hotel, where Death Row Records had booked more than
a dozen rooms. After dropping off Shakur and the bodyguards, Knight
drove about 15 minutes to a mansion he owned in a gated community in
the city’s southeastern valley.
The plan was to regroup later at a benefit concert for a youth
boxing program featuring Shakur and other Death Row acts. The midnight
concert was to be held at Club 662, a nightspot just opened by Death
Row. The club’s name was an emblem of how gangs had infiltrated the
rap business. On a telephone keypad, 662 spells “mob.”
A bruised and shaken Anderson gathered himself off the floor in
front of dozens of startled onlookers. MGM security guards and Las
Vegas police tried to persuade him to file a complaint against his
assailants, but he declined.
Anderson headed out to the Strip and crossed over a pedestrian
bridge to the Excalibur Hotel, where he had checked in with his
girlfriend. News of the beating swept through the gang underground.
Before he reached his room, Anderson’s pager was beeping with calls ,
according to what he later told associates.
Anderson phoned his comrades and set up a meeting at the Treasure
Island hotel.
By the time Anderson’s taxi reached the Treasure Island, more than
a dozen gangsters were holed up in a Crips-reserved room. Marijuana
clouded the hallway. Alcohol was flowing as Anderson opened the door.
The gang was furious. The topic of discussion: Who gets to pull the
trigger?
According to people who were present, the Crips decided to shoot
Shakur after his performance at Club 662. The plan was to station two
vehicles of armed Crips outside the nightspot and lie in wait.
For the Crips, the beating of Anderson was an egregious affront
warranting swift and fatal retaliation. Still, the Crips thought, why
not make a little money while they were at it? They decided to ask
Shakur’s biggest enemy to pay for the hit.
The gang arranged a rendezvous with Notorious B.I.G. The Brooklyn
rapper, whose real name was Christopher Wallace, hated Shakur and had
been feuding with him for nearly two years.
Once tight friends, the two entertainers now ridiculed each other
at events, in interviews and on recordings. In one song called “Hit
’Em Up,” Shakur bragged about having sex with Wallace’s wife and
vowed to kill him. The threats between the rappers and their labels,
Death Row and Bad Boy Entertainment, escalated into a series of
assaults and shootings — one of which resulted in the killing of a
Death Row bodyguard in Atlanta in 1995.
Fearing for his safety, a friend of Wallace arranged for the Crips
to supply bodyguards for the rapper whenever he traveled west. Over
the years, the gang was paid to provide security for Wallace at
casinos in Las Vegas, clubs in Hollywood and award shows in Los
Angeles.
Wallace began flashing Crips gang signs and calling out to the
homies at concerts, sometimes even inviting gang members on stage.
Privately, he prodded the gang to kill Shakur — and promised to pay
handsomely for the hit.
On Sept. 7, 1996, the Crips decided to take him up on the offer.
They sent an emissary to a penthouse suite at the MGM, where
Wallace was booked under a false name. In Vegas to party, the rapper
didn’t attend the Tyson-Seldon fight but had quickly learned about
Shakur’s scuffle with Anderson. Wallace gathered a handful of thugs
and East Coast rap associates to hear what the Crips had to say.
According to people who were present, the Crips’ envoy explained
that the gang was prepared to kill Shakur but expected to collect $1
million for its efforts. Wallace agreed, with one condition, a witness
said. He pulled out a loaded .40-caliber Glock pistol and placed it on
the table.
He didn’t just want Shakur dead. He also wanted the satisfaction of
knowing the fatal bullet came from his gun.

***Cont. Next Post***
 
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***Cont. from above***

Around 11 p.m., police stopped Knight for cranking the black BMW’s
stereo too loud and not properly displaying its license plates. Shakur
and Knight joked with the officers and talked them out of issuing a
ticket. Then the BMW turned right on Flamingo Road and headed east
toward the club.
A few blocks away moments earlier, Anderson and three other Crips
were taking an elevator down to the Treasure Island lobby. They walked
out into the valet parking area.
Hovering under the hotel’s skull-and-crossbones logo, the four
Crips waited silently as the valet brought out a 1996 white Cadillac
and opened the doors. They piled in and eased the sleek new sedan out
into traffic. A fifth Crip in an old yellow Cadillac met them at the
curb and followed close behind. He rode solo, with an AK-47 assault
rifle lying across the front seat.
After waiting at a stoplight between Caesars Palace and the Barbary
Coast hotel, the Cadillacs turned onto Flamingo and headed east toward
Club 662.
As they passed the Bally’s hotel on the right, the driver saw a
caravan of cars ahead on the left. The vehicles, packed with Mob Piru
Bloods and Death Row employees, were stopped at a red light across
from the Maxim Hotel. The crosswalk was filled with tourists.
Leading the convoy was Knight’s black BMW. Shakur was in the
passenger seat. They were alone in the car, unarmed.
The Crips couldn’t believe their luck. They decided to chuck their
plan and strike immediately.
The white Cadillac raced up on the convoy and pulled up beside the
BMW. Shakur didn’t notice. He was flirting with a carful of women in a
lane to his left.
“I saw four black men roll by in a white Cadillac,” said Atlanta
rapper E.D.I. Mean, who was in the vehicle directly behind Shakur’s.
“I saw a gun come from the back seat out through the driver’s front
window.”
Bullets flew, shattering the windows of the BMW. Shakur tried to
duck into the rear of the car for cover, but four rounds hit him,
shredding his chest. Blood was everywhere.
“We heard shots and looked to the right of us,” Knight said.
“Tupac was trying to get in the back seat, and I grabbed him and
pulled him down. The gunshots kept coming. One hit my head.”
In the chaos, neither Knight nor Mean could make out who had fired.
The driver of the yellow Cadillac just behind the assailants never got
a chance to fire his AK-47.
“It all happened so quick. It took three or four seconds at
most,” Mean said.
Then the Cadillac screeched around the corner. A bodyguard near the
back of the Death Row caravan fired at the fleeing sedan. In a ruse
designed to confuse Shakur’s entourage, the Crip in the yellow
Cadillac chased the white Cadillac around the corner, as if in hostile
pursuit.
Knight made a U-turn, his bullet-riddled BMW squealing around the
concrete median. The Death Row convoy followed him back to the Strip,
where he rammed his car onto a curb.
Las Vegas police were soon on the scene. After summoning an
ambulance for Shakur, they ordered everyone else in the convoy out of
their cars at gunpoint. The police forced Knight, who was bleeding
from a head wound, to lie face down on the pavement.
By the time the detectives figured out that Knight and his caravan
were victims, not suspects, the Crips had returned to their hotel
rooms and gathered their belongings.
Staggering their departures to avoid attracting attention, Anderson
and his fellow gang members hit the highway, each in a different car.
Two younger gang members drove the white Cadillac back across the
desert.
Interstate Highway 15 moves fast at night.
It was still dark when the Crips disappeared over the California
border.
 
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SOUNDS LIKE BULLSHIT TO ME... But you decide for yourself...

Reasons I dont buy it, they made it sound like biggie n Orlando planned it as a result of what happened to Orlando... and the whole million dollars part?!? Come on now! Orlando got beat THAT NIGHT.. PAC GOT SHOT THAT NIGHT.. WHEN could they meet to set him up... I think pac was on some thug shit in Vegas, and got caught up in some thug shit in Vegas... Thats it.. no conspiracy...
 

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SOUNDS LIKE BULLSHIT TO ME... But you decide for yourself...

Reasons I dont buy it, they made it sound like biggie n Orlando planned it as a result of what happened to Orlando... and the whole million dollars part?!? Come on now! Orlando got beat THAT NIGHT.. PAC GOT SHOT THAT NIGHT.. WHEN could they meet to set him up... I think pac was on some thug shit in Vegas, and got caught up in some thug shit in Vegas... Thats it.. no conspiracy...
That pretty much sumz up what Im feelin after readin all of that.

Ill soak it all in, though. & Ill try and get the genuine article.
 

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Hhhhmmmmmmmm................

I don't know what to make of it, alot of it sounds like bullshit to me. I mean granted if Orlando did have fellow crips in town with him, news of what happened would travel fast, and they would wanna extract retaliation. But if I remember right Orlando was getting questioned at the time of the shooting, so he wouldn't have been the killer.

And about this whole fuckin deal with Biggie, c'mon now, there trying to make it out as some big mafia thang. Like dude said in the Siccness Network forum, they'll finger someone that's dead. Anderson and Biggie are both dead. So there can be no prison time served.

Now I know when Anderson was at the fight, he didn't go for the fight. Because hotel camera's caught him standing where he was waiting(if you watch Tupac Shakur Before I Wake you'll see), and I know there was a hit out for Death Row chains. But he wasn't the fuckin trigger man.

It could'a been a set up and maybe not. I truely think Suge had something to do with it. For 1 Pac was signed to a 3 album contract, he was makin his cd's hella quick, and right after Makaveli he would have one more album to do and his contract would be up. To quote Nate Dogg and Busta from OFTB off'a that Death Row documentrary from MTV. "Pac was planning on leaving Death Row, that's why he was making those albums so fast" Nate Dogg, "Pac wanted off Death Row bad" Busta from OFTB.

And if you seen Welcome To DeathRow you'd see when Harry-O was talkin bout what Suge had to say about Pac "I've got Pac on my label now, I don't need none of them other fools". So basically Knight probably felt like "if I can't have him, no one can" typa thing.

But who knows, I call bullshit on that whole Biggie-Crip connection, cuz if they were his bodyguards, why weren't they with him at the time he got killed?

But I'ma read it some more and see if I can make sense in any of it.

I think it'll continue to be an unsolved mystery.
 

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A report by the LA Times plans to reveal who they suspect killed Tupac Shakur six years ago. According to sources, the paper will implicate Christopher "The Notorious B.I.G." Wallace as having a roll in the shooting of Shakur. Pulitzer Prize winning writer Chuck Philips wrote the story exposé.

“I’m shocked at what [the reporter is] saying. I hope he’s got good, good evidence to back this up, because this is going to be a hell of a claim and this is going to blow **** up.” EDI, a member of Tupac’s group the Outlawz, told AllHipHop.com. The 2-part cover story will run September 6 and 7, Friday and Saturday.

The paper will claim that Biggie hired Southside Crips to murder his West Coast counterpart and then was killed because he failed to the pay gang members, who actually committed the act of shooting Tupac in Las Vegas.

EDI said that, while he didn’t know exactly how true the allegations were, he admitted they are very possible.

““I’m not saying I believe he’s right or wrong, I think it’s some validity,” he maintained, citing the six-year investigation of reporter Chuck Philips.

Ironically, he also said that he knew the wrongdoing in the Tupac murder was going to eventually be revealed at some point in the future.

“I gotta say anything that’s done in darkness is going to come to light. Regardless of who did it, its always going to come to the light,” he said.

Despite prevailing opinions, EDI said that Pac felt the battle with Biggie was strictly lyrical.

“Its foul, yo. A lot of people don’t realize this, because of how real a dude Pac was, but that whole “Hit ‘em Up ****,” he said. “It was just music for us. I was there. Regardless of what anybody says. I don’t know how they was taking it, you never know how serious thing were thinking it was.”

“Pac ran into B.I.G. and Puff and it was times when something could have happened [but didn’t],” he said. “Pac said in may interviews ‘Biggie is my brother, and at the end of the day, I ain’t finna kill another Black man over no music ****. We can go in the ring and box.”

However, he said that if accusations against Biggie and possibly others like Puff are true he may have commandeered the assassination of Tupac out of fear not malice.

“At the same time, a scary man is a dangerous man and when you box a scary man in a corner, he liable to do anything – especially somebody with money,” he said.

He said that if Puffy is implicated as Biggie is, he may profess his innocence, but still be barred from the West Coast.

“First he is going to probably deny it, he probably going to want to sue the LA Times, because this is damaging to his career right now. He’s on a serious upswing right now,” he said.

“If Puff did have something to do with it, I don’t want to see no type of retaliation-thing like that. I’d rather God just deal with him the way God deals with people like that.”

Faces with the prospect of finding Tupac’s killer, EDI said that the discovery was bittersweet.

“It’s been six years, I’m so past it. I’m just trying to live another life now. Part of me is happy, that’s like my brother – finding out what’s happening with that,” he confessed. “The other part of me wishes this sh*t had never even came out.”


Checkmate over at BART put this up, it's what EDI had to say, he got from AllHipHop.com news.
 
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FUCK...I'M TELLIN YA ORLANDO ANDERSON HAD NOTHIN TO DO WITH THE SHOOTIN OF PAC...PAC'S BROTHER SHOT HIM DEN KILLED HIM SELF AHHH SHIT FORGET IT FUCK DIS SHIT YALL NIGGAZ WOULDN'T BELIEVE SHIT ANYWAY
 
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I dont know what to belive in this shit but what I do know is on one hand you got a guy tellin this story on what REALLY happend. on the other hand some shit just doesnt add up like most of you are saying. but then back to defend the guy writing this shit, why would he go to all the trouble to make some shit up like this??? i mean i guess the defense would be that he did it so people would stop spreadin rumors and leave it alone or some shit but i mean still you know what i mean.
 
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I just read the autobiography of Russel Simmons (Def Jam). He said about the so called Eastcoast/Westoast rivalry it was all made by the media, especially the Vibe magazine was hyping it.
 
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carlos said:
FUCK...I'M TELLIN YA ORLANDO ANDERSON HAD NOTHIN TO DO WITH THE SHOOTIN OF PAC...PAC'S BROTHER SHOT HIM DEN KILLED HIM SELF AHHH SHIT FORGET IT FUCK DIS SHIT YALL NIGGAZ WOULDN'T BELIEVE SHIT ANYWAY
GET OFF OF THE BOARD YOU RETARDED FUCKER!

Every post Ive read from you now, is dumber, and dumber...

Youll say one thing as the topic of the thread, jus to get people to read your STUPID, IDIOTIC, 2pac theories....

Now your saying he is dead, but you were just swearin to god in another post that he wasnt.... Youve had the worst ideas yet as to what happened that night... Guess what Carlos, your right, I dont believe shit you have to say...

If your going to post, keep it above a grade school level post....
 

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I was never a big fan of Pac or B.I.G. but. . .

I think it's funny how ya'll get some into this shit and all the theory's n shit. I always thought them Southside Crips had something to do with. But for the people who think Suge set up Pac I think your going into too deep with the fairy tale side of things. I mean come on now if Suge was gonna set up Pac would he pay someone to shoot Pac in his car while he was in it? Have you ever shot a gun? Do you know how good of a chance you have yourself of getting shot in that situation? Hell no ain't nobody in they're right mind would set up someone that way.And don't come bak here sayin. Well maybe he wanted to get shot so people didn't think he did it. please this ain't the movies. If you get shot. You have a good chance of dieing. . .You think he'd go through all that trouble? I don't. . .