So that your other thread does not go off the topic, I have responded to what you wrote there here. Here we can chop it up about God, religion or whatever.
If the entire planet exists within the universe, and the entire universe exists within God, why would Vallejo not be INSIDE of God?
The ten commandments are rules for US to follow so that WE can act in accordance with the ABSOLUTE will of God. God is all-pervading, He is Absolute, that means that He permeates both "this" and "that".
Yes, Krsna has human attributes as well. But unlike the human bodies and thoughts we have, God is ETERNAL.
Being "angry" or "happy" however, are temporary manifestations of dual emotions.
Humans get "angry" when their lusts go unfullfilled. They get "happy" when something pleasurable happens to them. Our feelings of happiness and anger are the result of a temporal existence. Since God is eternal, where is there any chance of Him "wanting" something so that He can be "happy", or being "denied" something which would make Him "angry"? Such a God is not omnipotent, nor is He perfection. Such a God is LIMITED like we are. That God is anthropomorphized.
People think that God gets "angry", but they do not understand that He is the all-powerful Supreme Being, which means He ETERNALLY enjoys all that He desires. His will is always perfectly fullfilled. What people do not understand about the Supreme Being is that when He is "angry", it is the same as when He is "happy". And when He is "happy", it is the same as when He is "angry". God is unchanging. There is no duality IN HIM. There is no DIVISION IN HIM. Division and duality ONLY appear in OUR MINDS.
Yes He has human attributes, but He is not a human.
Yes, everything comes from God, including our ability to discern between "this" and "that". *WE* have to make the distinction between "this" and "that" so that we can understand what *is* God and what *is not* God. But when we see the truth, we will see that ALL "this" and "that" duality exists WITHIN the ONE ABSOLUTE God.
God is ALL THERE IS, therefore although WE must make the distinction between this and that, God does not make such distinctions because they are both "Him".
No, God HIMSELF is not Oakland, but Oakland exists WITHIN God, and God is the totality of all things. Oakland, although NOT GOD PERSONIFIED, is nonetheless created by and connected to Him and it is not separate FROM Him. ALL land and ALL universes exist WITHIN God.
"Why worship what is created?" -- Excellent question. People are so blind that they worship the land they walk on. They claim proprietorship of a land which existed before they were born and which will exist after they die. Therefore they do not OWN the land, and the land is NOT worthy of worship. This is why I say that God is not concerned with what patch of land we occupy, He is concerned ONLY with the amount of LOVE we express to Him.
I can make that claim regardless of what Judaism or Islam says. Maybe you can explain to me why my statement is not true?
It is not a question of adherence to doctrines, it is a matter of TRUTH.
2+2=4 is TRUE whether you believe in it or not. God is all-pervading and all-encompassing whether you believe it or not.
V: What I am saying is that God is indifferent to all different pieces of land because ALL LAND exists within Him.
H: are you saying that vallejo california is INSIDE of god?
H: are you saying that vallejo california is INSIDE of god?
V: To say that God favors one piece of the land over another is anthropomorphization of Him. It is saying that God is like man, that He is a person who makes distinctions between "this" and "that".
H: he does make distinctions between THIS and THAT. just read the ten commandments.
H: he does make distinctions between THIS and THAT. just read the ten commandments.
H: ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE AND QURAN YHWH AND ALLAH *DO* HAVE HUMAN ATTRIBUTES. once again i refer you to the ten commandments.
Being "angry" or "happy" however, are temporary manifestations of dual emotions.
Humans get "angry" when their lusts go unfullfilled. They get "happy" when something pleasurable happens to them. Our feelings of happiness and anger are the result of a temporal existence. Since God is eternal, where is there any chance of Him "wanting" something so that He can be "happy", or being "denied" something which would make Him "angry"? Such a God is not omnipotent, nor is He perfection. Such a God is LIMITED like we are. That God is anthropomorphized.
People think that God gets "angry", but they do not understand that He is the all-powerful Supreme Being, which means He ETERNALLY enjoys all that He desires. His will is always perfectly fullfilled. What people do not understand about the Supreme Being is that when He is "angry", it is the same as when He is "happy". And when He is "happy", it is the same as when He is "angry". God is unchanging. There is no duality IN HIM. There is no DIVISION IN HIM. Division and duality ONLY appear in OUR MINDS.
Yes He has human attributes, but He is not a human.
*if* man *IS* an extension of god AND made in HIS image these traits come from HIM (god). the distinction between this and that would come from him.
God is ALL THERE IS, therefore although WE must make the distinction between this and that, God does not make such distinctions because they are both "Him".
V: God is the *combination* of "this" and "that", therefore there is no separation between God and every piece of land in existence.
H: GOD is NOT oakland california. nor will oakland california ever be god. it is an extension of god meaning he created it however oakland california does NOT have the attributes of a DIETY. why worship what is created?
H: GOD is NOT oakland california. nor will oakland california ever be god. it is an extension of god meaning he created it however oakland california does NOT have the attributes of a DIETY. why worship what is created?
"Why worship what is created?" -- Excellent question. People are so blind that they worship the land they walk on. They claim proprietorship of a land which existed before they were born and which will exist after they die. Therefore they do not OWN the land, and the land is NOT worthy of worship. This is why I say that God is not concerned with what patch of land we occupy, He is concerned ONLY with the amount of LOVE we express to Him.
V: It is only man who experiences separation and favoritism.
H: not true. please study judaism and islam before you make that claim.
H: not true. please study judaism and islam before you make that claim.
i dont adhere to the "ALL IN" doctrine. you do.
2+2=4 is TRUE whether you believe in it or not. God is all-pervading and all-encompassing whether you believe it or not.