Gennady Gennadyevich Golovkin vs Canelo Álvarez 9/16 [WBA, WBC, IBF, lineal title]

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#63
I couldn't help but think of what Canelo said after his fight with Erislandy Lara ---

Something like : "You have to first have a dance partner to put on a show"

This was no Big Drama show and the fans booing Canelo aren't in the wrong.
If GGG had no power like Canelo said then why didn't he push him back and go to work.

Lots of back pedaling by that man, which is fine, but wasn't what was promised.

It's lame that Hagler Hearns gets brought up before every big fight. Promoters should have to sign a contract to never mention that fight in a build-up. It's blasphemy.

Obviously I wanted GGG to win.
 
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I couldn't help but think of what Canelo said after his fight with Erislandy Lara ---

Something like : "You have to first have a dance partner to put on a show"

This was no Big Drama show and the fans booing Canelo aren't in the wrong.
If GGG had no power like Canelo said then why didn't he push him back and go to work.

Lots of back pedaling by that man, which is fine, but wasn't what was promised.

It's lame that Hagler Hearns gets brought up before every big fight. Promoters should have to sign a contract to never mention that fight in a build-up. It's blasphemy.

Obviously I wanted GGG to win.
I thought it was a dope fight I mean obviously wasn't Hagler Hearns but I thought it was super impressive how much of a fucking machine Golovkin was, the way he stayed on Canelo Like Glue never giving him a chance to breathe- Canelo would often retreat on his back foot and Golovkin would literally jog towards him to stay on him. Canelo would throw everything he has, land on his fucking face and it wouldn't even phase Golovkin Golovkin just continued to put on the pressure- pressure pressure pressure pressure - that takes incredible conditioning/stamina to do that.


To me it was very exciting and very intense because you knew it any moment something could change the fight and even though Canelo was clearly gassing in the second half of the fight, he would still have these little flurries and because he's got so much power you just never knew what would happen should he land something big maybe it would hurt Golovkin or knock him out. But Golovkin has a fucking chin on him without question. Canelo does too for that matter but to me it was clear Canelo was bothered much more by Golovkin's shots, even jabs, than Golovkin was. Golovkin for the most part wasn't phased and just kept applying the pressure.

I'm just pissed that Golovkin could have such a good performance such a perfect performance really in the sense that he applied that type of pressure that Canelo has never had before in his career, pressure he's never had to deal with. Such a shame that it's tarnished by this bs draw.

And that's another thing to factor in is that it was obvious Golovkin won clearly by the fact that they had to score it a draw rather than an outright victory to Canelo, they couldn't straight up give the victory to Canelo because they knew that outrage and backlash would be just too insane so they gave him a draw. That's when you know who truly won the fight since Canelo ALWAYS gets fucked up scores in his favor and wins every close fight he's ever had (Trout, Lara, Cotto, all had ridiculous scores). Only Mayweather got a decision against him but he's the only one who's more popular and brings in more money and remember, Canelo got a DRAW in that fight on one judges scorecards too.

I would say it's not Canelos fault so don't blame him but he said he won 7 or 8 rounds in the post fight interview so fuck him. If I'm Golovkin I'd say fuck Canelo next and unify the last remaining belt. Let Canelo be beltless and have to fight Charlo or Andrade for small money and probably lose.
 
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It's lame that Hagler Hearns gets brought up before every big fight. Promoters should have to sign a contract to never mention that fight in a build-up. It's blasphemy.

Obviously I wanted GGG to win.
I mentioned Hagler Hearns too yesterday but I thought because Canelo bulked up that meant he was going to go to battle right away. But in the first round I saw Canelo almost immediately bouncing on his feet, back pedaling and using movement and that his strategy was to box. I would have thought he would have weighed in light for that kind of strategy, as I would expect bulking up would be bad for his stamina.

Clearly Canelo was gassing out in the second half of the fight, probably as a result, which is why he would only fight in spurts and have little flurries, then go back to backpedaling and trying to set up Golovkin for a big counter when he was against the ropes (which Golovkin never fell for). I didn't like that strategy and never thought it would beat Golovkin, I thought he would have to be more physical and get on the inside so he could consistently land his trademark body shots and more uppercuts (the latter he landed a few nice ones, but not consistent enough). Again I thought it was an excellent and intense fight, but yeah it certainly wasn't the war I was expecting yesterdsy and today and quite frankly I thought it was pretty one sided, I saw absolutely no room for a draw I thought Canelo won 4 rounds maximum, maybe 5 if you want to give Canelo an extra pitty round for shits & giggles.
 
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#69
Who let that bitch judge tho. she look like she would even be able to tell the difference between a landed punch n a missed one.
 
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I had it 115-113 Canelo. Canelo won the first 1,2,3,5,10,11,12. GGG cant hit a moving target, doesn't cut-off the ring good, and is slow as shit. Canelo has no stamina or he would've koed GGG.
 
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I had it 115-113 Canelo. Canelo won the first 1,2,3,5,10,11,12. GGG cant hit a moving target, doesn't cut-off the ring good, and is slow as shit. Canelo has no stamina or he would've koed GGG.
lmao you lying ass mf

Didn't cut off the ring?? GGG was on Canelo like glue almost the entire fight. He literally would jog after him when Canelo retreated backpedaling and maintained that constant pressure, reminded me of when Margarito would job over to Cotto in the first fight.

There weren't even many times in the fight that Golovkin had to cut off the ring. That's how I know it's just a catch phrase you're using to act like you have a point. The time it's needed to cut off the ring is when a fighter is using a lot of movement, going backwards and in a circle, or sode to side even. Canelo didn't do that because he would constantly backpedal in a straight line and end up against the ropes. How many times did that happen, like 25 or more? WTF would Golovkin have to cut off? He was constantly on Canelo's ass and hardly gave him opportunities to catch his breath.

By the way, what did Canelo do in the first round that won him the round? Exist? Golovkin had an excellent jab that round, in fact landed over 50% landing 15 of them. Canelo hardly did anything in round 1.

The middle rounds especially belonged to Golovkin, rounds 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8, so how can you score 5 to Canelo when Golovkin had his most active rounds, throwing about 80 punches and landing numerous significant shots? That's two rounds right there (1 and 5) that changes the fight in GGGs favor lol. I guarantee if we broke down those two rounds, minute by minute, you would have zero argument for Canelo winning those two rounds. Once scored correctly your scorecard is the 7-5 Golovkin. Nice try though sneaking in teo obvious Golovkin rounds!
 
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#74
Ggg didn't do shit. Canelo's won easy. I won't be buying the rematch
lmao nice troll attempt.


Anyways, Teddy Atlas went on a while about how Canelo would win the fight, here is his reaction to the decision:


Average scorecard per app 117-113



Twitter reaction went crazy, almost all high profile people had GGG

Manny Pacquiao
Did they bring these judges over from Australia? #CaneloGGGt

Nick Diaz
Golovkin won that fight...#CaneloGGG

Kovalev
Very disappointed Golovkin won this fight 117:111 Check out @KrusherKovalev's Tweet: Twitter

Lou DiBella
Did they have to fuck up a great fight!?!?!? Did they???? Fucking #boxing. #GGGCanelo

Lou DiBella @loudibella
All three judges gave #Canelo the final three rounds. ALL of them. Did YOU see it that way? What a joke. #GGGCanelo

Lou DiBella @loudibella
One last thing, D @Daniel JacobsTKO more deserved a draw against G @ggg Boxing more than #Canelo did. ��

Sergio Martínez Twitter › maravillabox
I believe G @ggg Boxing won. 116-112 in my card. The only one who lost today was Adalaide Byrd.

Freddie Roach scored it 7-5 Golovkin (Chris Mannix twitter)

Teddy Atlas going crazy [ame]https://twitter.com/timvo/status/909285137757519873[/ame]

Chris Mannix
Bad judging mars another big fight, this time #CaneloGGG. Will boxing ever do what it takes to address it?
Awful judging mars Alvarez-Golovkin as boxing continues to embarrass itself by refusing to change.

Dan Rafael D @danr afaelespn
#CaneloGGG is a classic fight ruined by inept judge in a draw. I strongly disagree. GGG won
 
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lmao you lying ass mf

Didn't cut off the ring?? GGG was on Canelo like glue almost the entire fight. He literally would jog after him when Canelo retreated backpedaling and maintained that constant pressure, reminded me of when Margarito would job over to Cotto in the first fight.

There weren't even many times in the fight that Golovkin had to cut off the ring. That's how I know it's just a catch phrase you're using to act like you have a point. The time it's needed to cut off the ring is when a fighter is using a lot of movement, going backwards and in a circle, or sode to side even. Canelo didn't do that because he would constantly backpedal in a straight line and end up against the ropes. How many times did that happen, like 25 or more? WTF would Golovkin have to cut off? He was constantly on Canelo's ass and hardly gave him opportunities to catch his breath.

By the way, what did Canelo do in the first round that won him the round? Exist? Golovkin had an excellent jab that round, in fact landed over 50% landing 15 of them. Canelo hardly did anything in round 1.

The middle rounds especially belonged to Golovkin, rounds 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8, so how can you score 5 to Canelo when Golovkin had his most active rounds, throwing about 80 punches and landing numerous significant shots? That's two rounds right there (1 and 5) that changes the fight in GGGs favor lol. I guarantee if we broke down those two rounds, minute by minute, you would have zero argument for Canelo winning those two rounds. Once scored correctly your scorecard is the 7-5 Golovkin. Nice try though sneaking in teo obvious Golovkin rounds!
What fight was you watching? Canelo hit GGG slow ass with any punch he want to at will until he gassed. All i heard about for four years is how much power GGG has, but against good fighters (Jacobs and Canelo) his so called super punching power disappeared. I'm not impressive by GGG slow ass jab because that was the only punch he could land until Canelo gassed and GGG still couldnt do shit. Lol. You seem mad and still acting a fuckboy. Please explain to me this great work that GGG put in missing looping hook and throwing a jab, but getting hit with power shots the whole time walking in. The only time GGG cornered Canelo is when Canelo wanted to be cornered and thats a fact. GGG cut off no ring.
 
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206-please point me to the rounds that GGG much hyped about skills shows up? Any GGG fans please tell me GGG beast mode round. GGG has a great chin and good punching power thats pretty much it. GGG did nothing but walk forward and eat punches thats a fact. The rounds he won was the rounds Canelo was resting in and thats a fact. GGG cant land thise slow bombs on Canelo at all until the gas tank ran low in 7th again a fact. This was more about Canelo piss poor stamina then GGG overrated skillset again more facts.
 
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#78
IMO, GGG won the fight. But, I'm not mad at the decision at all. I wasn't scoring while watching but by the 9th round I told my family it will be a draw based on the fact that GGG relied on the jab way too much and he missed a shitload of power punches because of Canelo's great defense. If GGG won, he won by just 1 or 2 rounds, but I need to watch it again.

Canelo looked great! His combos sent GGG back everytime, he landed most of his combos, and Canelo's defense is no joke. Canelo's defense wasn't going to allow for a KO by GGG, and nobody is strong enough to KO GGG, but GGG was clearly the aggressor and cut the ring like a Japanese fighter not a Mexican one lol.

That first judge killed it though. She made it look like GGG got robbed. The overall decision is correct but she is foul as shit and she needs to get out of Nevada asap! She's wack

In a rematch, though, Canelo wins easily.
 
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