Floyd Mayweather vs Sugar Shane Mosley [May 1st]

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so this fight should happen since pac man says he will do the test 14 day cutoff unless mayweather makes some other demand and fucks shit up
Is the 14 day cutoff official from him or his people? If so, 206, What did I tell you?

Incase you forgot heres what I told you. he will agree to the terms in the future. Now, why now and not before?
 
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Pacquiao-Mayweather still possibility

Now that Floyd Mayweather Jr. has dispatched Shane Mosley, talk immediately turned to the potential showdown with Manny Pacquiao, who has apparently softened his stance on the drug testing procedures that derailed their negotiations in January.

Pacquiao and Mayweather, universally regarded as the top two fighters in boxing, tried to make the mega fight in December and January.

The camps had agreed on all terms except for the way to handle drug testing for what many believe would be the biggest money fight in boxing history. The all-time pay-per-view record of 2.45 million was set in Mayweather's victory against Oscar De La Hoya in 2007.

When Pacquiao and Mayweather reached an impasse, Pacquiao went on to easily defeat Joshua Clottey on March 13 and Mayweather took a lopsided unanimous decision against Mosley in their welterweight super fight on Saturday night.

Mayweather, who accused Pacquiao of using performance enhancing drugs despite having no evidence, had insisted on strict blood and urine testing, which was employed during the lead up and immediate aftermath of his fight with Mosley.

Pacquiao, who has a defamation lawsuit pending against Mayweather and his team over the accusations, agreed to unlimited urine testing -- but with limits on how many blood tests he would take and how close to the fight he would agree to be tested.

Now, less than 48 hours after Mayweather's victory, Pacquiao seems to be in a compromising mood in order to make a fight for which official negotiations have not yet begun.

"I am willing to help the sport for the future of the sport. I do not want to see anyone cheat or cheat this sport. For that reason I am willing to consider taking blood [tests] as close as 14 days prior to the fight, as long as my opponent does the same, and it is not a lot of blood, just enough to test," Pacquiao is quoted as saying on his official website.

Mayweather has no issue undergoing the same kind of testing as his opponent.

During the previous negotiation, Pacquiao had insisted on a cut off of blood testing 30 days before the fight and eventually moved to 24 days when it came to light that he had taken a blood test during that time frame before his second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton in May 2009.

Pacquiao had agreed all along to take a blood test immediately after the fight.

"I do not want anyone having an unfair advantage where someone may get hurt," said Pacquiao, who is in the final days of his congressional campaign in the Philippines. "I am willing to do my part to help this sport out."

Pacquiao had said previously he did not want to have blood drawn too close to the fight because he feels like it weakens him.

"Mayweather is the furthest thing on our mind," Michael Koncz, Pacquiao's adviser, said in a statement to Pacquiao's website. "Our focus has been and continues to be Manny's desire to become congressman."

Following the election, Pacquiao and his family are expected to go on vacation and the fighter will discuss his next bout upon his return. "As Manny has stated many times, we are willing to fight anyone, anytime, anywhere in accordance with the athletic commission's rules and regulations in which ever state we fight in. We will not be bullied into or entertain any additional rules or regulations to be imposed by our opponent."

Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter is headed to the Philippines to support Pacquiao in the final days of his campaign. He told ESPN.com on Monday that during the trip he will not talk to Pacquiao about Mayweather, drug testing or any boxing business.

"As far as I am concerned, I am not even going to raise anything," Arum said. "We're not even going to talk about future plans until after election and that's the truth.

"I have no thoughts about the other stuff but I have an open mind to everything. Obviously, he's my fighter and I will do what he asks me to do, but there's a time for everything. And the time is not now."

Mayweather said after the fight Saturday night that he would fight Pacquiao under the same kind of Olympic-style testing used for the fight with Mosley.

"If he wants to fight it's not that hard to find me," Mayweather said. "We tried to fight before and it didn't work, and we moved on. Mosley did what I asked him to do and if every athlete in the sport would do that, we know we would have a clean sport. Everyone should take the test. I am willing to take the tests. If Manny takes the test we can make the fight happen. If he doesn't we don't have a fight."

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5159812
 
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@kah707kali, you beet me to it homie.LOL

Any way Pac says to help to sport he'll agree to drug testing, sounds like some bullshit to me. Dude is going clean now, so ofcourse he'll do it now. MY OPINION.

EDIT:Oh, he also says just the blood needed and not more. Like if he thought they were goona drain all his blood. More Bullshit.
 
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Is the 14 day cutoff official from him or his people? If so, 206, What did I tell you?

Incase you forgot heres what I told you. he will agree to the terms in the future. Now, why now and not before?
I'm also questioning this shit, what if Arum just wants to get this contract quickly signed by both fighters before NSAC invent their own USADA testing?? Just throwing that out there.

But anyway, please not this blood testing shit all over again.
 
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@kah707kali, you beet me to it homie.LOL

Any way Pac says to help to sport he'll agree to drug testing, sounds like some bullshit to me. Dude is going clean now, so ofcourse he'll do it now. MY OPINION.

EDIT:Oh, he also says just the blood needed and not more. Like if he thought they were goona drain all his blood. More Bullshit.
and why did mayweather all of a sudden want blood testin never been done before goes both ways
 
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IT ALL COULD OF BEEN HYPED AND SET UP LIKE THIS JUST SO BOTH CAMPS MAKE MORE MONEY.. THEY DO THIS TYPE OF SHIT IN ENTERTAINMENT.. IM A GO AHEAD AND SAY BOTH CAMPS SAT DOWN AND CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN.. CAUSE IT REALLY HAS BEEN THE BIG TALK ALL YEAR MAYWEATHER IS A BULLSHITTER OR MANNY IS ON ROIDS. I BELIEVE MANNY'S CAMP AND FLOYDS CAMP CAME UP WITH THAT JUST TO DRAW MORE ATTENTION TO THE SITUATION.. THEN THEY CALLED IT OFF DRAWING EVEN MORE ATTENTION AND ALL OF A SUDDEN O BOY DOESN'T WONT TO FIGHT MOSLEY. I MEAN COME ON READ IN BETWEEN THE LINES HEAR BOTH CAMPS ARE RUNNING THE BIGGEST GAME ON THE PEOPLE FOR A BIGGER PURSE... NOW TO TOP IT OFF MANYY WILL AGREE TO THE TEST WHY CAUSE IT WAS ALL PART OF THE MAYWEATHER CAMP AND MANNY CAMP TO GET EVERYBODY SO HYPED OVER THIS FIGHT ANYBODY AND THEY GRANDMOTHER WILL WONT TO PAY TO SEE IT... GOOD MARKETING I SEE WHAT YALL DID
 
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Well maybe Floyd is finding excuses to get out of the fight and Pac is scared of being exposed. That shouldn't be a problem no more, Im sure "IF" he was using any type of illegal drugs he was smart to have stopped already.

So "lets get ready to RUMBLE"
 
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I'm also questioning this shit, what if Arum just wants to get this contract quickly signed by both fighters before NSAC invent their own USADA testing?? Just throwing that out there.

But anyway, please not this blood testing shit all over again.
Possible.However do think the blood testing had any affect on Mosley?
 
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Well maybe Floyd is finding excuses to get out of the fight and Pac is scared of being exposed. That shouldn't be a problem no more, Im sure "IF" he was using any type of illegal drugs he was smart to have stopped already.

So "lets get ready to RUMBLE"
pac has comeback clean every fight he gave blood right after the clottey fight came back clean
 
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I see your point but it's not working.....

It is what it is. I agree with the truth and Floyd tells it like it is.

I don't have a bias towards or against Floyd. I call it like I see it mayne.

I took Floyd's side in the Pacman/Floyd negotiations because Roach/Arum were calling Floyd out, saying Pacman would knock him out, saying Floyd was using the drug testing as excuse to duck and run from Manny.... and then when it came time for them to negotiate, it seemed like Arum was looking for a way out of the fight more than Floyd was.

All them wolf tickets Arum/Roach was selling got kind of tiring. Now after this whoopin' that Floyd gave Mosely, all that barking stopped!
Whoever this Tony dude is he sure makes a strong point. See it for what it is...smell it for what it smells like...it is what is...do what it do...or find out what it don't do. Pacman and his whole team are full of SHIT.
 

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Pacman and his whole team are full of SHIT.
Yeah they are peep this... this is from the boxing thread

"Arum made it clear that both he and Pacquiao are standing firm on a 24-day cut-off period for the random blood tests and the previously agreed upon 50-50 split on the money. Arum told us “all I’m saying, right now we are holding to our position.”

After they talked all that (Manny's the greatest, Manny will knock Floyd out, etc...) they don't want the fight to happen. If they did they'd be willing to come back to the table the negotiate.
 
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Yeah they are peep this... this is from the boxing thread

"Arum made it clear that both he and Pacquiao are standing firm on a 24-day cut-off period for the random blood tests and the previously agreed upon 50-50 split on the money. Arum told us “all I’m saying, right now we are holding to our position.”

After they talked all that (Manny's the greatest, Manny will knock Floyd out, etc...) they don't want the fight to happen. If they did they'd be willing to come back to the table the negotiate.
Goes both ways, Tony. But, in your opinion, I guess that works for everyone but Floyd.
 
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Its because he knows Pacquiao is a bigger threat to him than anyone else he's ever faced before.


Like I've said before, essentially what he's saying by demanding these tests is that he doesn't believe that a fighter can be as good as Pacquiao has been, without the aid of some kind of magic potion.