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Hemp

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i know many if not all of you disbelieve in the ability to channel another soul or being for that matter.
of course i am a skeptic as well, just as i am a skeptic towards all things paranormal, but i have been reading several of them while only paying attention to any contradictions made within the readings and i havent found any errors or false predictions.

of course the predictions arent clear but they state things like "there will be NO nuclear war" or that there wont be a full scale war with iran but maybe air strikes (as i listed in iran thread).

now i know 99% of you are skeptics but why dont you read a couple pages and see if you can find contradictions yourself.

the two channellers i read from are:
http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm

and
http://matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm


read the latest in both links.

WARNING, some of you christians and muslims believe that these are demons being communicated with.
 

Hemp

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come on geniuses if channeling was complete bullshit and since the channeler is bound to get a flaw so just read a couple of the messages and try your best. If you failed then please let us know.

Here is the latest channel from mike quinsey's messages, he supposedly channels aliens and some masters like st. germain.

SaLuSa 17-August-2007



Dear Ones, with no exception all of you have experienced the era of Communism and Materialism, and they polarised the world for so long until the power of Communism was broken. Have you wondered what brought these two into Being, with their many confrontations, wars and massive loss of life? Ideals that were totally opposed, and so unlike each other that you had no difficulty in making a choice as to which one to follow.



You create your own reality, and it is the result of your own desires. It has allowed millions of Beings to experience the quality of life they had envisaged, and learn whether or not it fulfilled their expectations to bring peace and happiness. These two realities had to come into being, having been created by the energies of the people themselves. They were seized upon after the collapse of Nazism, when it failed to fulfil the ambitions of the German people. There is never a vacuum and as Nazism was collapsing, Communism was already establishing itself as the next great power.



You may ask how is it that these powerful movements come into prominence and garner such support in a relatively short time. It is because they answered the needs of the people. The Lords Of Karma established a period of reincarnation that allowed an influx of souls that were ready to form the two main opposing political camps. Thus the scene was set for a period in your history that has known no equal for its ferocity and continual state of readiness for war. Two ideologies that could not exist side by side for long, that provided the experiences required for the furthering of Man’s evolution.



Bear in mind that nothing happens by chance, and that over thousands of years of your history, war has always been considered an acceptable option. Man has fought territorial wars for gain over millennia of time. It has reflected Man’s disregard for his fellow souls rights and freedom to live their lives in peace. Clearly you could not go on forever without realising the futility of war, and the pointless loss of life. It was inevitable that out of your experiences would come an awakening of the Light, and that the dark energies would gradually lose their power.



Many of you here today are the ones who have come to Earth to change things, and are doing it remarkably well. It is not to exalt one ideology over another, but to bring understanding and Light to planet Earth. To show that there is another way that brings peace and contentment to the soul, and harmony amongst all people. At present you are in transition, and the Light grows stronger bringing more people into the realisation of their true selves.



The old negative thoughtforms are no longer supported by the energy of bygone ages. They are coming to an end, and the new uplifting energies of Light are now the dominating force. You will therefore notice some unexpected changes, as the new wave of energy awakens the Light in people who are breaking out of the old mould. The consciousness of Man is locked in a battle with the old energies that resist change. However, they are being transmuted by the incoming energies from your Central Sun. The heavenly plan will reach perfection in its final outworking, and Ascension will ensure it is glorious completion.



Every one of you contributes to the changes taking place, whether you are consciously aware of it or not. All of your thoughts, words and actions send out energies that coalesce, and provide the basis for greater expansion as they attract energies of a like kind. The more you can give out the Light the more powerful it becomes. Be aware that the dark energies also form in this way, and you need to be careful that you do not also add to them. Your thoughts are more likely to be unguarded, and carry the potential to generate just as much negative energy as your words.



Consider the act of healing, it often combines thoughts and words, and it can be very powerful. Directed with firm intent such energies can serve their purpose, but it is must be remembered that all healing is subject to the approval of the Higher Self. Some experiences are intended to be seen through to their end, and are part of a souls life contract. However, the unsuccessful “healing” will in itself have served a purpose in opening the mind of the recipient to higher things. Sometimes you have no idea why a certain experience comes your way. In that event you can be reasonably certain that it appertains to a previous life. There is of course instant karma such as results from criminal acts, that are immediately punished.



Even the knowing of other people’s problems is beneficial. They teach Love and compassion from a distance without actual involvement. This is why your films and T.V shows can also serve a useful purpose in helping people to understand themselves. They en-act their own fantasies without involving real people. Conversely there are also people acting out theirs in situations involving the lower energies, and no harm is done to any individual. The danger that must be averted is that some will want a real life experience.



The influence of the media is quite powerful. The dark forces are well aware of it, and they implant ideas into your consciousness. They create energies that serve their desires to control your minds. Once you are conditioned it is easier to manipulate you into thinking in their ways. For eons of time you have lived your lives believing in the right of others to rule you. Now you are finding out the truth of your own sovereignty, and becoming individual thinkers capable of making your own decisions. It is allowing you to break away from the hold the dark have had upon you. You are becoming free souls able to express yourselves in the Light and Truth of your Higher Self.



The greatest self-realisation you can have is one of accepting your “God-ness” and your potential to live as a Being of Unconditional Love. That is the path you are travelling, and by the time of Ascension it will have become achieved by you. We will be with you for the rest of your journey, heaping upon you our Love and Blessings as you become One with us.
 
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Hemp, I dont doubt for a minute that the person 'channeling' miraculously also believes all of this shit. It's sort of like how God 'tells' people shit they already think.

Formula for 'channeling', 'prophesying', 'speaking the word in the spirit', or any other mystical act by which humans seem to speak the words of others:

1. Study something
2. Believe in it completely
3. Meditate on it constantly
4. Bring yourself into a self-induced trance state where all the shit you believe magically pours out of you in an inspired revelation.

In this case the 'channeler' is babbling about reincarnation, healing powers, positivity, rejecting the messages of the dominant mainstream media, karma, materialism, and anything else I could sit in front of a dollar store in Santa Cruz, CA and hear a stank pussy hippie bitch tell me while smoking a joint and bumming change for a tall can.

I've seen the same shit with Christians 'prophesying'. I once heard a fuckin guy say the Mike Tyson incident happened because Satan is trying to 'bite the ear' of believers so they wont hear the truth. I have also been told I would be a preacher several times. Ive seen people get 'prophesied' over for healing of nonexistant drug problems and personal sins that never happened. The funny thing about these things is the channelers, prophesiers, etc. never come out of left field with their shit. It's always some shit that just by coincidence they believe themselves.

Why would aliens communicate with humans only to give us some sort of dime store christian science / jerry garcia message that anyone could find in a crystal healing room or at an interpretive dance class at a local community center?
 

Hemp

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those who aint even bother with this thread just need to read this channel.
it will crack you up based on your current position but i only ask you to do so just incase sometime in the future you find out your perception of reality is bs and you need another path to make sense.
of course because of your current belief this itself wont make sense, but it will when your perception allows you to see it.



We the Arcturians, as members of the Galactic Federation are part of a great membership of nations that have aligned their Will with God. In so doing we have vowed to help others that are on the path of enlightenment. You upon Earth are further along it than you may imagine, although many fight to remove themselves from the mind conditioning that has taken place over eons of time. The Light that is being grounded upon Earth is breaking up the negative energies, and also weakening the power of the dark to continue holding you back.



Everywhere you have pockets of Light that are growing in intensity, and as they link together their power becomes formidable. Your consciousness is expanding and opening up to the Truth, and there is now no going back to the old way of half-truths and misleading teachings. You are becoming quite adept at intuitively understanding what is Truth, and the questioning mind only accepts that which is clearly of the Light. It becomes much easier for you to be discerning.



You have been encouraged to think for yourselves, as all knowledge is contained within. You have your Guides with you, who if allowed to come close to you, will also help you by impressing the truth upon you. It is in those moments of quietness and meditative thought that you can make such contact. Once you realise your ability to tap into your higher consciousness, you will step up into the Light of understanding. It only requires an open mind, and one that is prepared to start afresh.



It is not that the Truth is unknown to you, as you came down from those higher realms to experience the lower vibrations. The Truth is deep within, waiting for you to awaken to it. It is quite simple to understand, and the starting point requires that you accept your status as a God. You are a part of God and indeed look upon yourself as a cell of God, with the potential of revealing the same level of consciousness. The plan is to lift you up and enable you to become at One with your Godself. It will develop with time and the path to Ascension will bring about an acceleration, one which will see you as a fully conscious Cosmic Being united with your Higher Self.



We know that many ask how they go about finding their Higher Self. Dear Ones, there is never a time that you are not connected, it is just that hitherto you have been unaware of your true selves. You ego has often guided you in directions that have ignored the promptings of your Higher Self, and you need to distinguish between the two. Ego is your own programming of Self, through your consciousness that resides within the lower vibrations. Now you are being given the understanding of your immutable connection to each other, and your responsibility to All That Is.



Recognising the Oneness of all life does not mean that you lose your individual identity, as each part of God is unique and there are not two alike. The Oneness that you are part of is the consciousness of God, and is the Will of God. You will find that on Earth the Laws of God are only a pale reflection of the Truth. As you raise your vibrations you will find that the lower ones will gradually drop away, as they cannot hold their place in the growing Light. Your evolutionary steps come in a gentle way, and you will be laying down the building blocks of the new you ready for Ascension.



How much easier you will find it to stand in your own Light, and know that it is bringing you into a harmonious and balanced condition. It is your protection and with this realisation you can stand firm in the face of the dark energies. It will be your inspiration and strength, and you will experience the power that has energised the actions of those who you call your Saints. Your peaceful countenance and calmness in all situations, is a sign that you have been able to manifest your true Self. Is it not wonderful that the meek are those who carry the strength of their knowing, that is the power of God. It knows no equal, and is Love and Light in action.



We see the success of your earthly experiences that have prepared you well for the upliftment that is to come. What could be more natural to you than to return to those higher levels that are your real home. As your Earth responds to the negativity around it, so you the Lightworkers are able to bring in a balancing energy and it is lessening the effect. However, physical changes are unavoidable and we monitor these situations, so that they cause the minimum damage and loss of life. Although we await the time we can come to Earth we do not stand around idle, and join you on the path that leads to Ascension.



The changes to Earth are necessary to restore it, whilst at the same time removing all that is of the lower vibrations. It is a cleansing of the old so that in a relatively short time, only that which is of natural beauty and harmony will remain. You will be ready for your own upliftment, and the race of Man together with Mother Earth will move into yet higher dimensions. For the time being you cannot really imagine the beauty of the higher realms, but it will astound you and captivate you. It is the peace that has no ending that will thrill your soul, and you will recognise the godliness in each other. The purity of the Light and its wonderful range of scintillating colours will astound you.



I am Ela, and I can tell you that “going home” was always planned as the last great event that would finally release you from your ties to the old Earth. You can see that together we have much to do, and our time to reveal ourselves to you approaches with all speed. It will be an exciting period upon Earth, and the transformation will be truly remarkable. With so many wonders to come we hope that the thought of it all, will give you the inner strength to walk the last few steps with a new understanding. You are being released from the cycle of duality, and no more shall you be pulled down. The changes will bring about an end to the power of the dark forces to dominate your lives. Instead, the Light will fully return, and Love will be the energy that permeates amongst you all. Be that which you are, and let love be your footstool. We greatly admire and love the people of Earth, and our blessings go with you at all times.



Thank you Ela,

Mike Quinsey.
 

Hemp

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WHITE DEVIL said:
Hemp, I dont doubt for a minute that the person 'channeling' miraculously also believes all of this shit. It's sort of like how God 'tells' people shit they already think.

Formula for 'channeling', 'prophesying', 'speaking the word in the spirit', or any other mystical act by which humans seem to speak the words of others:

1. Study something
2. Believe in it completely
3. Meditate on it constantlyh
4. Bring yourself into a self-induced trance state where all the shit you believe magically pours out of you in an inspired revelation.

In this case the 'channeler' is babbling about reincarnation, healing powers, positivity, rejecting the messages of the dominant mainstream media, karma, materialism, and anything else I could sit in front of a dollar store in Santa Cruz, CA and hear a stank pussy hippie bitch tell me while smoking a joint and bumming change for a tall can.

I've seen the same shit with Christians 'prophesying'. I once heard a fuckin guy say the Mike Tyson incident happened because Satan is trying to 'bite the ear' of believers so they wont hear the truth. I have also been told I would be a preacher several times. Ive seen people get 'prophesied' over for healing of nonexistant drug problems and personal sins that never happened. The funny thing about these things is the channelers, prophesiers, etc. never come out of left field with their shit. It's always some shit that just by coincidence they believe themselves.

Why would aliens communicate with humans only to give us some sort of dime store christian science / jerry garcia message that anyone could find in a crystal healing room or at an interpretive dance class at a local community center?


dont worry man i understand where you are comming from and i thank you for your time n effort.
the only thing tho is that people never really put the time and effort into studying something and seeing its relevance unless they already believe in it.

same reason for muslims being muslim, christians christian, newagers newagers.

but thanks once again
 

Hemp

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thoughts are the same in any language. The channeler who interprets the message translates the thought into words.

now you get it?
 
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Hemp said:
the only thing tho is that people never really put the time and effort into studying something and seeing its relevance unless they already believe in it.
This is why I abandoned Christianity. There is this constant push to seek God and put faith in God, and I eventually came to the conclusion that the reality of God was largely based upon my own "search". And if I stopped trying, stopped believing everything in my life to be from either God or Satan as most Xtians do, the reality of God would also magically disappear. So if the reality of God is completely dependant on the search for God or how much you "seek" God, does that not make them the same?
 

Hemp

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exactly i was just tellin jlmacn that each of us needs to find his own truth and this is the way we each evolve.
but if this is the case then one must be open minded to everything in order to give himself a chance of finding REAL truth.
 
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Hemp said:
thoughts are the same in any language. The channeler who interprets the message translates the thought into words.

now you get it?
then your faith is not in the channeling but in the interpretation, just like any other second hand revelation. you are very trusting of people you have never met, while i suspect you approach the actual people you do meet with precaution and skepticism. if i wrote something and said i got it from channeling would you believe it? how do you pick and choose? based on what?
 

Hemp

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well the more i read from the same channeler the bigger the message gets.
you only need to read some channelings for a week or so and you will see the relevance of what im sayin

like read todays channeled message and compare with yesterdays. from what ive seen is several claims made that havent been disproven and i havent found one contradiction stated before by the channeler and instead the relationship between the channeling message and me are just that of a channeled thought based on perception.

so read todays message and see the claims and the point of understanding they present you with and you will see that this broader sense of reality is .




Ker-On 22-August-2007



You are at a time in this period of awakening, when you should be full of joy and happiness. There is a great Light growing that is lifting up those who seek the truth, as more souls begin to understand their purpose for being here. You are indeed privileged to have been chosen to take part in the end times of this cycle. Many souls are fighting against the old energies that still hold them back, but with the help of others bringing Light to the Earth they are succeeding. Equal opportunity is given to every soul to bring an end their travels in the lower energies. On one level it only requires the intent to change their path, and that will set a course to fulfilment.



The dark forces are collapsing very rapidly and in spite of the chaos that it is causing, it is creating a shift from what was of the old, to a new enlightened way that will reveal the plan for Man. You are so near to completion of the old cycle, and with it will go the entrenched beliefs that have held you back for eons of time. In the events happening upon Earth see only the opportunity for change, and do not give your energy to those who only see the Apocalypse as the final end to life.



God has not created the misery and despair that exists upon Earth; it has arisen from Man’s forgetfulness as to his true being and place in the Cosmos. Dipping deep into the muddied waters of life you have been allowed to experience first hand the depth of negativity, until you have sought the Light of Freedom. You have always known that there was a different way of life, one that would fulfil your dreams of living in absolute peace and harmony. Now the thrust of that belief has become your goal, and you seek the beauty of the Love and Light with its ability to lift you up.



Never before has there been a clearer path defined for your rising up, one that will permanently leave the old behind. What you have invested your life in no longer matters, wealth and fame are but passing stages in your life. Like poverty and loneliness they are simply stops along your path, determined by your need to experience your own creations. There is nothing in your life that has not been brought about by your own actions. Therefore live it out knowing that you are on a path of your own choosing and making. Some will doubt that they could have chosen their present one, but you may be assured that if you could see your greater plan you would fully understand the reasons why.



All life is about experiencing and progressing upwards, and moving back into a higher expression of yourself, seeking the perfection that once was yours. Opening up your heart centre, and allowing the Light to shine out on all around you. Finding your guidance from within and awakening to the subconscious memories of your Higher Self. Come from that place of low estimation of yourself, into one where you acknowledge your divinity. Become that which you are, an expression of your Godself that can be the Light of Freedom and Peace.



There is nothing that you cannot achieve, and even in your wildest dreams you have laid down the possibility of its creation. You are projecting that which you desire, and placing these markers along the path of your life. Now let your imagination know no bounds, as you lifting up into realms where your thoughts will bring about instant manifestation. Heed however our advice that you consider what it is you desire, as with your creations also comes responsibility. Pureness and clarity will go hand in hand with your growth into the Light, when you can take your true place in the Universe as fully conscious Cosmic Beings.



As you are now breaking out of the bonds of the lower dimensions, it is difficult for you to comprehend how great is your potential. However, allow for the greatest expression of yourself that you can imagine, and that path will open up for you. Remember that you are a soul given freewill to choose your experiences, and it is your choice as to whether you leave duality. If you wish, you can choose to remain in the lower dimensions for furthering your experiences, until you feel ready to leave them behind.



Many paths are open to you once you ascend, and the end of this cycle is the beginning of a great new adventure that will allow your travels to take you wherever you desire. The end is simply a new beginning, and one that brings you back in touch with all life forms beyond Earth. Life abounds everywhere and no more will you feel isolated and veiled from the truth of your source and Godself. Think expansively and discover your real Self within, and do not be afraid to acknowledge your Godliness. Come out of that shell that has held you back, and allow for a wonderful expansion in your consciousness.



Dear Ones, you do not make the journey to All Knowing alone, and we of the Galactic Federation are just but one group of ascended souls that play a part in your evolution. In service to the higher Forces of Light, when our work is done we shall proceed to another part of the Universe to continue helping others to evolve. Some of you will join us, but many paths are open to you and that choice will be yours.



Meantime we stand fully prepared to move into the next phase of our service to you. We shall be so pleased when the time comes that we can all come together, in the outworking of the final stages leading to Ascension. The changes will be dramatic and take place quickly, and the trauma you have been experiencing will soon be replaced by the descent of peace upon all people. Stress and frustration will soon disappear and a wave of happiness and hope will cover the world.



I am Ker-On a Venusian, and one of many that have been closely associated with the Earth’s cleansing and your development. We along with others have contacted Man often to give a guiding hand. Now we will come to assist in your final upliftment, and that gives us great joy. We send as always our loving energies to you all, and offer our hands in friendship and unity in the Oneness of Life.



Thank you Ker-On.

Mike Quinsey.
 

Hemp

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i dont know about you but this shit flows right through my mind and is blissful, making complete sense as it enters my mind.
that is only because of my current perception which is dictated by my current beliefs of things.
when ones belief changes, the perception changes too , only then will one see the relevance in everything and all answers and ways.