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Cotto wants the day to be on PR Day Parade, and as much I would hate to say it but he's the champ and he has a point. Canelo has to pay his doues still even tho he fought Floyd. Fighting Floyd taught him not to fall for high demands, but that loss also forces Canelo to be a B sider big time. If he fought Lara for the title,then he would have had a say. Cotto is a fighter that knows his value now and maybe even more since we all know that Haymon in reality did hit up Cotto for a rematch.
 
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Also the second comment, did they fight as amateurs?
If they did it was a while ago. Spence didn't break out as a solid amateur until 2008-2009 when he started winning major tournaments and Thurman was already in the pro ranks by then.

And Spence was a better amateur than Thurman anyway so it's not unbelievable, but as I've always said .. amateurs isn't the pros.
 
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Pretty decent ratings for both. Would have helped if the fights weren't on at the exact same time (hate when they do that!).


HBO, SHO Ratings Results From Dueling 12/13 Telecasts

HBO and SHOWTIME have done a great job of staying out of each other’s way for the most part during the 2014 boxing season, and for good reason. Historically, the two networks wind up eating into the other’s audience when presenting dueling boxing broadcasts, which is never good for the sport.

A down year for the sport as a whole ended with a bang, however, as fans tuned in on December 13, with both networks providing live broadcast barely a mile apart in Las Vegas.

Tim Bradley and Diego Chaves fought to a highly disputed 12-round draw in turned out to be the most watched bout of the weekend, averaging 966,000 households and peaking at just under 1.1 million viewers.

On the other side of town—and the dial—Amir Khan delivered a brilliant boxing performance in scoring a wide unanimous decision win over Devon Alexander. The bout drew an average of 762,000 households, peaking at 887,000 viewers.
 
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I don’t want Khan, I want Pacquiao,” says Mayweather
date December 16th, 2014 | Post Comment - 33 Comments

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manny pacquiao floyd mayweather jr amir khan photoBy Antonio Bufalino: In a recent interview with ESNEWS, Floyd Mayweather was asked about Amir Khan’s dominating performance of Devon Alexander. He responded, “The other night I think he did 4,000. So, Amir Khan, his name holds no weight. No one knows who Amir Khan is, but those involved in boxing. My focus is Manny Pacquiao. Let’s make it happen.”

In a way, Mayweather has a valid point. Though Amir Khan has impressive boxing abilities, he has yet to challenge and win against an opponent who can increase his popularity in not just boxing fans but casual fans.

Mayweather has only two fights left on his Showtime contract. It’s been said that he supposedly owes Showtime $16 million from the last two Maidana fights, which both showed decline in Mayweather’s PPV numbers. It’s unknown if this is true or not.

Mayweather might also be competing with Saul “Canelo” Alvarez vs. Miguel Cotto on the Cinco De Mayo weekend date, May 2nd. With this said, Mayweather will most likely be looking for someone who can be enough of a sell to make Showtime happy, as well as make Canelo/Cotto the lesser draw. Of course, Manny Pacquiao would be the one to provide him this, not Amir Khan, so it makes sense for Mayweather to be focusing on making the Pacquiao fight happen instead.

This is probably a devastating blow for Khan, who has been extremely vocal about wanting the Mayweather fight for months. Oscar De La Hoya had been promoting the fight as if the winner will immediately get Pacquiao or Mayweather. But, as the two fighters seem to be materializing a fight with one another instead, Khan may be left watching on the sidelines. For him, he should focus on finding a worthy opponent to increase his popularity outside of his home country, United Kingdom.

Kell Brook has called out Khan, telling him his win over Alexander doesn’t allow him to skip ahead of the “Mayweather fight” line. With Brook being undefeated, he could be a great opportunity for Amir. Timothy Bradley, Keith Thurman, and even a rematch with Danny Garcia, are also opponents that Khan could look to for his next fight. For when it comes to Floyd Mayweather, it seems Mayweather wants him to step into the ring with some cougars before he faces the lion.

You can see Floyd Mayweather’s interview with ESNEWS here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL2COMzxuY8
 
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Lara wants Golovkin, Mayweather and Cotto in 2015



By Dan Ambrose: After recently beating Ishe Smith and Austin Trout and being arguably robbed in his fight against Saul “Canelo” Alvarez, WBA World junior middleweight champion Erislandy Lara (20-2-2, 12 KOs) says he’s interested in fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr, Miguel Cotto and Gennady Golovkin in 2015.

Just which one of these three will say yes to a fight against the southpaw Lara is the big question. It’s quite possible that Lara scared away all three of them with his performance against Canelo.

Lara out-boxed Canelo for 12 rounds, and had the red-haired fighter hitting air with his punches all night long. Canelo landed only 30+ head blows during the fight. The judges gave Canelo the fight based on his body punching, and many of the body shots Canelo threw landed on the gloves of Lara.

Of the three big names that Lara wants to fight, Golovkin is the most likely of the three to say yes to a fight against Lara. However, it’s still a fight that probably won’t take place next year, because Lara showed interest in fighting Golovkin earlier this year, but there was no mutual interest in Golovkin’s side to take the fight. I don’t that will change with Lara fighting at junior middleweight. Golovkin is more interested in facing the winner of the Miguel Cotto vs. Canelo fight.

Mayweather isn’t going to move up to 154 to fight Lara because it’s a fight that would be potentially a difficult one for him. Lara doesn’t have a huge fan base, so Mayweather would have to be willing to take the fight for legacy purposes.

I don’t think Mayweather is going to do that given that he’s only got a couple of more fights left on his Showtime contract. He’s likely to face the guys that will give him the biggest paydays such as Manny Pacquiao and perhaps a fight against the winner of the Canelo-Cotto fight.

Lara will likely wind up fighting the likes of Joshua Clottey, Jack Culcay and Sergey Rabchenko in 2015. Lara could impress a lot of boxing fans if he were willing to face the Charlo twins, but that’s not going to happen because the twins won’t fight him. They spar with Lara, and they’re said to not be interested in facing him because of their friendship.

If Lara wants a big fight in 2015, he can always face WBO champion Demetrius Andrade in a unification fight. Andrade has shown interest in fighting Lara, and he’d likely jump at the chance of facing him if he offers him the fight.
Lara considers his fight against Canelo as a victory, not a loss. Lara feels he was unbeaten in 2014 in his fights against Canelo and Ishe Smith. I don’t think too many people would disagree with him there.
 
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Canelo: Oscar is getting me May 2nd and September fight dates
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saul alvarez oscar de la hoya photoBy Dan Ambrose: Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (44-1-1, 31 KOs) still insists that he’ll be fighting on May 2nd and in September of next year despite the fact that Floyd Mayweather Jr has already said that he plans on fighting on those dates next year.

Canelo wants to fight on the Mexican holidays in May and September, and he sees it as a case of him wanting to take the dates due to him being Mexican. However, it might end up biting Canelo in the backside if he does try and compete with the popular Mayweather because it’ll mean that Canelo’s pay-per-view numbers for those months will likely wind up much smaller than they would be if he were to fight on another date.

The problem is Mayweather is the far bigger pay-per-view attraction than Canelo, and it means that if boxing fans have to pick between Mayweather and Canelo for their fights in May and September, most of the fans will opt to purchase Mayweather’s fights especially if he facing the likes of Manny Pacquiao and Amir Khan.

“Everybody knows that Oscar is getting me May 2 and September,” Canelo said via RingTV.com. “Those are the Mexican holidays, and they belong to the Mexican fighters. Everybody knows those are the Mexican holidays and the traditional dates for the Mexican fighters.”

Anyone is free to fight on the Mexican holidays. I’m not sure that Canelo is aware of that. If Mayweather wants those dates, it doesn’t matter if he’s not Mexican. He can fight on them and he likely will.

Canelo could wind up hurting himself if he tries competing against Mayweather for both of the Mexican holiday fight dates next year, because Canelo doesn’t have the fan base in the United States to bring in nearly the same amount of pay-per-view buys as Mayweather.

We’ve seen that with Canelo bringing in a little over 300,000 PPV buys for his fights against Alfredo Angulo and Erislandy Lara. Canelo was the A-side in both of those fights, yet he couldn’t even break 500,000 buys.

The smartest thing for Canelo to do is to back off and let Mayweather have the dates that he wants next year, and then when Mayweather retires, Canelo can claim them for his own.

De La Hoya thinks Canelo will be the biggest star in the sport for the next 10 years. I’m not sure if that’s going to be the case. Canelo was beaten by Mayweather soundly last year in September, and in his last fight in July, Canelo was arguably beaten Erislandy Lara.

Canelo won the fight by a 12 round split decision, but it appeared that he was beaten by Lara. Lara beat his last opponent Ishe Smith in the same manner he did Canelo.

The only difference is the judges gave Lara the victory over Smith, who is nowhere near as popular as Canelo. If Canelo can’t even decisively beat a fighter like Lara without controversy, then it’s highly unlikely that Canelo will be boxing’s biggest star for an entire decade like De La Hoya thinks he’ll be.

There are constantly new fighters emerging that will likely give Canelo fits if De La Hoya is willing to match him against them. It’s kind of telling that De La Hoya didn’t want to match Canelo against either Austin Trout or Lara.

That tells me that De La Hoya is going to be very selective in the guys the matches Canelo against. I’d be very, very surprised if De La Hoya gives the green light to a Canelo vs. Gennady Golovkin fight if Canelo can somehow get past Miguel Cotto next year. I think it goes without saying that Lara will never get another chance against Canelo.
 
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Santa Cruz Says a Fight with Abner Mares Would Be a War
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By Michael Luketic December 16, 2014 10:07 pm
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hi-res-5ed71bb064907753e8f10a54883fe218_crop_northTha Boxing Voice had a chance to speak with 122 pound champion Leo Santa Cruz over the weekend in Las Vegas and get his thoughts on Amir Khan and Abner Mares.

On the topic of the Amir Khan-Devon Alexander fight, Santa Cruz had this to say, “It was a great fight Amir Khan looked great. Hhe looked better than in his previous fights. He looked amazing, great punches and everything so I think he did very well.”

Santa Cruz was asked to give his assessment on what Khan had improved on from his previous fights and he had this to say, “He took more punches away. He didn’t get hit with clean shots and he was faster than before and he threw a lot more punches this time.

Santa Cruz was next asked his opinion on the performance of Abner Mares. He responded by saying, “Yeah he looked great too. He looked very strong, so that just makes it more interesting for a fight against me. I think we are going to make a war and it’s going to be a great fight. The fans want it and I want it and it will be a great fight and that’s what the fans want.”

A bout between Santa Cruz and Mares has been rumored for sometime and with both fighters being under the Haymon umbrella, it seems easy enough to make in 2015. The fight would be a huge event in Los Angeles, somewhere like the Stub Hub Center.
 
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Most Watched Fights on US TV - 2014

Top 16 as per Fat Dan on twitter:

1 - Chavez-Vera 2 - 1.39M (HBO)
2 - BHop-Kovalev - 1.328M (HBO)
3 - Golovkin-Rubio - 1.304M (HBO)
4 - Crawford-Gamboa 1.208M (HBO)
5 - Marquez-Alvarado 1.198M (HBO)

6 - Donaire-Walters 1.088M (HBO)
7 - Provodnikov-Algieri 1.046M (HBO)
8 - Salido-Lomachenko 1.017M (HBO)
9 - Kovalev-Cedric Agnew 1.006M (HBO)
10 - Viktor Postol-Aydin 1.002M (HBO)

11 - Kovalev-Caparello 990k (HBO)
12- Golovkin-Geale 984k (HBO)
13 - Pascal-Bute 982k (HBO)
14 - Garcia-Herrera 972k (Showtime)
15 - Bradley-Chaves 966k (HBO)
16 - Arreola-Stiverne 940k (ESPN)
 
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Mayweather: ‘I’m Fighting May 2, There Is No Fight That Can Compete with Mayweather-Pacquiao’
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By Victor Salazar December 16, 2014 11:26 am
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box_g_floydmayweather_mb_576_f1b55The people wanted Floyd Mayweather Jr. to talk and he has. Last Friday he issued a challenge to Manny Pacquiao and Bob Arum and put the onus on the two to make the biggest fight in boxing. Yesterday at the WBC Convention in Las Vegas, he spoke more and more about May 2nd and his fight with Pacquiao.

In talking to Joe Cortez of ESPN Deportes, Mayweather explained why he deserves what he deserves in a fight with Pacquiao.

“I said yes to Pacquiao because he was talking a lot of lies. Bob Arum is lying to the public. We had the issues of drug testing, we offered him 40 million dollars and they said no,” Mayweather said. “In Boxing there is an A-Side and a B-Side, that’s how the business works. If you’re the B-side you have to take the B-side of negotiations. But we definitely want the fight, Mayweather-Pacquiao, May 2nd.”

Regarding Canelo challenging him for the date Mayweather stated, “I’m fighting May 2nd. Canelo is a great champion and a star but there is no fight out there that can compete with Mayweather-Pacquiao on May 2nd.”

Mayweather was seen with Top Rank’s Tood Deboeuf. The two are good friends but could their conversations have been more than pleasantries and more about business? Stay tuned
 
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Most Watched Fights on US TV - 2014

Top 16 as per Fat Dan on twitter:

1 - Chavez-Vera 2 - 1.39M (HBO)
2 - BHop-Kovalev - 1.328M (HBO)
3 - Golovkin-Rubio - 1.304M (HBO)
4 - Crawford-Gamboa 1.208M (HBO)
5 - Marquez-Alvarado 1.198M (HBO)

6 - Donaire-Walters 1.088M (HBO)
7 - Provodnikov-Algieri 1.046M (HBO)
8 - Salido-Lomachenko 1.017M (HBO)
9 - Kovalev-Cedric Agnew 1.006M (HBO)
10 - Viktor Postol-Aydin 1.002M (HBO)

11 - Kovalev-Caparello 990k (HBO)
12- Golovkin-Geale 984k (HBO)
13 - Pascal-Bute 982k (HBO)
14 - Garcia-Herrera 972k (Showtime)
15 - Bradley-Chaves 966k (HBO)
16 - Arreola-Stiverne 940k (ESPN)
it looks like hbo had a good year thanks to al haymon for that bs he did this year on showtime
 
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Team Cotto Says That May 2nd Isn’t a Magical Date for Them and They’re Open to Fighting Canelo In June
Victor Salazar
By Victor Salazar December 17, 2014 2:31 pm
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Miguel-CottoIf Miguel Cotto doesn’t fight on May 2nd, it’s not the end of the world according to his advisor Gabriel Peñagarícano.

“May 2nd isn’t a magical date for us,” Peñagarícano told the media at the WBC convention this past week. “There is no issue with the date or May 2nd for Team Cotto. It is for Canelo because he is Mexican and it’s a Mexican holiday. Miguel will fight on that date or he will fight the first week in June during the Puerto Rican Day Parade in New York, or another day, the date is no issue.”

Peñagarícano again confirmed that the fight is 50 percent done and that other options will be explored if a fight with Canelo isn’t finalized.

We’ll fight on May 2nd, before or after. As I said before, we’re 50 percent done, still things to be negotiated, most of them financially.”

Peñagarícano was asked if a fight with Mayweather and Pacquiao took away from the size of magnitude that Cotto-Canelo would be, Peñagarícano response was, “I don’t think that fight takes away from the importance of Cotto-Canelo. The general public is interested in both fights I feel just as equally. So that’s why we’re working extremely hard on making it happen.”
 
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it looks like hbo had a good year thanks to al haymon for that bs he did this year on showtime
Yeah, it's a good year compared to Showtime's dismal numbers but overall numbers are way down in general. 1.39m viewers is the highest we got and this would have been considered average at best just two years ago. When Hopkins fought Pascal they did 1.8 million and that was either the highest or second highest fight of that particular year. So we can see how dramatically it's fallen. Some of that may be do to such a lackluster year (honestly, 2014 sucked major fucking ass besides a few fights here and there). Bottom line is the numbers are way down and they better make big fights in 2015 to get these ratings back up.

On a plus side it's really nice to see Crawford in the top 4. He has so much upside because he's young. Golovkin & Kovalev continue to prove that Eastern European/former Soviet State fighters can be big draws in the states.
 
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Deal Done" Kovalev Set To Face Pascal March 2015
December 02, 2014

According to Main Events and InterBox a deal has been set for Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev (26-0-1 23KOs) to face Jean Pascal (29-2-1 17KOs) on March 14, 2015 in Montreal or Quebec City Canada. But Pascal must get by Roberto Bolonti before this can take place. Kovalev had a mandatory challenger in newly signed Main Events fighter Nadjib Mohammedi, but the IBF granted Kovalev a special exception to postpone that fight. Most likely this fight will be televised in the United States on HBO.

Kathy Duva owner of Main Events has said. "Sergey has made it clear since the moment we signed him that he onlys wants to fight the best fighters. I promised after his demolition of Bernard Hopkins that the next one would be for the money. I'm thrilled to work with Interbox to bring the boxing fans Krusher vs Jean Pascal, which delivers on both fronts. The truth is that these fights are easy to make when both fighters want to be in the big fights and the promoters and managers are willing to be reasonable and work together.
 
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GGG Says He Is Interested In Fighting Andy Lee
December 17, 2014

According to multiple sources after watching Andy Lee TKO Matt Korobov Golovkin went to Tom Loeffler his manager to see if he can set up a potentially showdown between himself and Andy Lee. Golovkin has said this is the direction for GGG to get a little closer to unifying the division as he waits for the winner of the Cotto vs Canelo fight.