why dont we help Africa????

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i dont come here much cause a lot of youll is over my head but this really bothers me how gorilla groups can slaughter whole villages and kiddnapp the kids and make them part of their group to kill there own people, man i seen this little girl who had her lips and ears cut off, man that made me hella sad arnt they the ones who really need our help and not Iraq???
 
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^^Yea, Kanye West exposed that apparent observation a while ago, no one does really.. It's not going to take anything short of military intervention or mass-migration of enlightened Western educated African Americans/Diasporians to the continent to change anything now. What we need to get straight first and foremost is that we need to stop reaching out for help from those who don't give a shit. There is no profit in Dafur, Sierra Leon, or Somalia, etc... Rwanda should of answered your question, Rwandans had nothing to offer the U.N., unlike Iraq. You need to complain to people like Oprah who will take it upon her self to build a fucking 50 million dollar school in the middle of South Africa, that only serves like 30 - 60 female (sexist bitch) students who most likely already have enough money and wit to survive above most people in Africa anyways. She could of funded campaigns in Dafur or against the blood diamond mining operations. At the end of the day the children of Africa are who should be expected to respond. I will always remain despondent in concern to American morality so the responsibility goes to those who are morally invested and biologically descendant.
 
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I trully believe that we ( as in our Government) doesnt help Africa becuase if they (Africa) got their shit together they would be a TRUE power house...

and prolly be the ones to over run America.....

So we do our best to make sure that doesnt help them.

ParkBoyz do you agree with that? Africa is huge and has much much much potential but countrys fail to help them....

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I'm white and fa real George Bush hates negros sorry ass mufucka and he's are president lol well not mine.Just look at the election in florida they made it where the negro votes didn't even count.I agree help them instead of iraq all he wants is his pockets stuffed with oil money they want to lock up dope slangers and prostitutes and shit and the biggest criminal in the USA IS GEORGE FUCKING BUSH!!!
 
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give me a break, nobody gives a shit about africa including most black americans, its not just george bush. as parkboyz pointed out, rwanda 1994, where was your messiah Mr. Clinton whose nuts most poeple on this board swing from saying he is was the first black president and the greatest president ever? lol. How much money do affluent african americans donate to africa vs. how much do they hand over to white people for european supercars?

People also forget to talk about religion when it comes to all these massacres in africa. They forget that Islam isnt only in the middle east. You also have the Nation of Islam saying that the US is exaggerating the genocide in Darfur. And the US is already warring with Islam in the middle east (with many on this board bitching about it), yet you want to fight another front in this holy war in africa? HAHA. Check into islams role in all these matters...including the aftermath in rwanda.

But the real kicker is all the countries and individuals saying America needs to stay the fuck out of other peoples business and that we are imperialist pigs, the world police, the world would be better off without us, but then these are the same ones who turn around and cry when we dont intervene. Textbook evidence that the US still the shit, the reigning champ. We get the most ciritcism because people expect more from the US than any other nation, like the eldest child; a veiled compliment. God bless america.
 
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Because your Government is like the fuckin` Nazis... You don`t "help" any country by makin` war ... that`s up first... But you ecspecialy don`t make war in afrika cuz America gets a lot of money for every kid that get raped & sloughtered ... that`s why ... No Disrespect to all of you guys but your government is bringin so much hatred into the world. they don`t need to go to war in afrika because they allread own all they got like diamonds so on... Wake up fellas war ain`t about freedom and stuff like that . Millions of People in Afrika was killed and America did`nt give a fuck ... Everyday in Afrika thousands of People starve to death and Amerika don`t give a Fuck... Amerika can afford Billions of Dollar for a War about Oil and got all that hightech stuff to kill people but is not able to feed them ? ? ? Get the Fuck outta here !
 
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JLMACN said:
I trully believe that we ( as in our Government) doesnt help Africa becuase if they (Africa) got their shit together they would be a TRUE power house...

and prolly be the ones to over run America.....

So we do our best to make sure that doesnt help them.

ParkBoyz do you agree with that? Africa is huge and has much much much potential but countrys fail to help them....

5000
haha dogg it would take like 200 years for africa to get their shit together and over take america, in other words it aint happen. Plus the whole continent is way over their head in debt so the only way they can progress is if every country in the world reliefs them of it
 
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Sorry but i don`t send money to anyone that i don`t trust we helped a lotta Africans here by sharin`food & weed and so on... See all African Refugees come to Europe not to you guys... And askin` a question like that is real fucked up cuz it sound like "Hey hopefully he did`nt do shit so i got a reason for myself that i don`t help" ...
 
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But the real kicker is all the countries and individuals saying America needs to stay the fuck out of other peoples business and that we are imperialist pigs, the world police, the world would be better off without us, but then these are the same ones who turn around and cry when we dont intervene. Textbook evidence that the US still the shit, the reigning champ. We get the most ciritcism because people expect more from the US than any other nation, like the eldest child; a veiled compliment. God bless america.
This is a bit arrogant but yea I tend to agree. There are a number of said and unsaid reasons why the United States does not intervene and help Africa, but the two biggest reasons in my opinion are:

Minimal Economic ties- The United States believes the amount of time, money and effort spent to improve Africa will not increase its own prosperity.

Minimal Military Resources- American military resources are already tied down in the Middle East, Korea, Japan and dozens of other places.

Mr. Germany you should talk to the EU about helping Africa. Typically you send your money to programs where it gets funneled into the hands of African dictators and abused and youre military resources are available to put a stop to violence but the answer is always the UN. In case you haven't noticed China will block most UN resolutions in Africa and UN resolutions don't usually work anyways.
 
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haha dogg it would take like 200 years for africa to get their shit together and over take america, in other words it aint happen. Plus the whole continent is way over their head in debt so the only way they can progress is if every country in the world reliefs them of it
I disagree, all Africa needs to do is unite and come to their collective senses, there's no time limit on that. It can take 10 years to 1,000. 200 is an arbitrary estimate based on nothing really, and of course Africa's in debt, but if they had enough imperial strength to take over America that wouldn't really matter now would it?
 
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I think Africas goal should be creating states that can project power in within their own boundries to control the violence that occurs there before it rapes and pillages the United States.
 
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ParkBoyz said:
I disagree, all Africa needs to do is unite and come to their collective senses, there's no time limit on that. It can take 10 years to 1,000. 200 is an arbitrary estimate based on nothing really, and of course Africa's in debt, but if they had enough imperial strength to take over America that wouldn't really matter now would it?
ok but the fact is that they can not become a prosperous continent unless their debt is relieved, and i dont see that happening. And of course 200 years is an abitrary number it is just to demonstrate that it would take a long time, not 10 years. But they have an extremely young population and if they can survive to adulthood then Africa would have a very large working population to expand their economy, but that wont happen unless 1. debt is relieved and 2. they get rid of all the corrupt leaders that run corrupt gov'ts
 
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The most serious problem in Africa is the proliferation of small arms and most governments' lack of ability to project power and across their territories.
 
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coondogg26 said:
ok but the fact is that they can not become a prosperous continent unless their debt is relieved, and i dont see that happening.
That's the problem, they are forced to repay debts rather than invest in social spending.

As I once said, Africa has been prevented from developing their own industries and their raw materials are being sucked dry by the imperialist nations. The prices of imports and exports have been determined by the world markets which are dominated by the industrialized nations. The World Bank and IMF have completely devastated Africa. The poorest African countries have been forced to "borrow" money from the World Bank & IMF for financial assistance who in turn attach extremely strict conditions to their loans, which in reality make these countries even poorer. Because these countries end up paying so much to repay their depts, they cannot invest money into the most basic needs, such as food, housing, healthcare, eduction, etc.

Debtor countries began the 1990s 61% more in debt than they were in 1982. Sub-Saharan Africa's debt increased by 113% in this period. (2)

• According to the World Bank, poverty in Africa increased by 50% between 1994 and 2000. Why? One reason is that virtually every nation in sub-Saharan Africa entered into a structural adjustment program in the 1980s. Yet for the entire decade, GNP in the region fell by 2.2% per year, and per-capita income declined to pre-independence levels. All of Sub-Saharan Africa spends $10 billion a year in debt service to banks, more than is spent on health and education combined for the entire region. For example, Zimbabwe between 1990 and 1993 cut its spending on primary health and basic education by 33% under the auspices of an IMF imposed SAP. (3) It is against this background that we can begin to understand the wave of wars and ethnic violence that has swept Africa in the past period.​
 
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^^Now that's fucked up..


coondogg26 said:
ok but the fact is that they can not become a prosperous continent unless their debt is relieved, and i dont see that happening. And of course 200 years is an abitrary number it is just to demonstrate that it would take a long time, not 10 years. But they have an extremely young population and if they can survive to adulthood then Africa would have a very large working population to expand their economy, but that wont happen unless 1. debt is relieved and 2. they get rid of all the corrupt leaders that run corrupt gov'ts
A lot of their debts are already relieved (by China, some European countries, etc.), and again, if they mustered up a powerful internal unity and utilized their resources effectively, and suddenly turned themselves around focusing any aim on America (hypothetically speaking), that's called 'war'. They can just as easily tell people to shove those debts up their ass for all of the exploitation (You think America wasn't in debt to Britain when they gained independence?), the point is that Africa with in its self isn't dependent on outside influence, they're coaxed into thinking this way. I doubt that much can be done in 10 years either, but I'm proving a point that they don't have to be restricted to such hopeless time lines, America built an entire country in 200 years, no way Africa can't replenish an already thriving landscape and established region into a power in much less time than 200 years if they had the same collective mind state. You underestimate Africans.. This comment below also shows how uninformed some can be and why Africa is bombarded with stereotypes.

"But they have an extremely young population and if they can survive to adulthood"

^^ As if most children in Africa don't make it to adulthood, haha, it's ridiculous how people think that many kids are dying. It's bad, but c'mon now!