Timbaland get caught stealing from an other artist??!

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RedStorm

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ok...i don't know why i'm awake this early and i also happen to be really stoned right now..but this appears, to me, to be a case of sly advertising..am i wrong?
 
Raw Tunez

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not a good look for timbo...regardless he is still one of my favorite producers....but i dont kno how hes gonna explain that one...but on the other hand people steal from him all the time
 
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Oh my god, that Hammer song Cant touch This sounds just like an old Rick James song. Hammer ripped of Rick James! Its called sampling, its been done since the beginning of hip hop...
 
MrPeete

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The problem is when producers steal (sample) shit without getting authorization for the original composer. I'd be pissed too if I got jacked and the individual who jacked my shit didn't clear it with me.

I'm all for sampling if that's what you do; Just give the proper credit or don't get caught not giving credit because you'll look like a thief.
 
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MrPeete said:
I'm all for sampling if that's what you do; Just give the proper credit or don't get caught not giving credit because you'll look like a thief.
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Or else they'll do you like they did Biz Markie, lol...
 
enserio

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He didn't do anything that others have not done before him. This is no way diminishes what talent/ability the man has. He tried to be slick and get away with one, but all he has to do is break bread and shit will be settled.
 
MrPeete

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pyromanaic414 said:
damn, tims 1 of the illest producers...but damn son, he didnt have to do that.
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He and other great producers have done this more times than we know. Timbaland just got caught this time.

There was like a 4 year period where Dr Dre was sued at least once a year by different people who's tracks he jacked and didn't give credit.

That's the industry...
 
Mak Deniro

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You really don't even know how many hip hop beats contain parts of something else, or are inspired by other songs and recreated.

As far as sampling goes anything is fair game, thats the beauty of it. Personally that demonstation has given me more appreciation of the Timbaland version. If i had randomly heard the Nelly Furtado track i probably wouldn't care - but understanding that the melody comes from a demo competition in Finland is genius to me.

Timbaland has a great ear and has crafted a whole other song around that groove, remember the Tempest beat is only a part of Timbaland's beat - it isnt the whole thing.

Listen to Stetsasonic 'Talkin All That Jazz' from 1988 those lyrics are still relevent today.

"Sayin' all that crap about how we sample
Given examples
Think we'll let you get away with that?
You critizie our method of how we make records
you said it wasn't art, so now we're gonna rip you apart"
 
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Mak Deniro said:
Timbaland has a great ear and has crafted a whole other song around that groove, remember the Tempest beat is only a part of Timbaland's beat - it isnt the whole thing.
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The way I see it, Timbaland (nor the production team behind him) didn't add too much to the original song.
He just layered some samples over the snare and added a few bassdrum hits to the rhythm. Hihat was altered by some EQ'ing but still are pretty recognizable. Then some double tempo hihat was played over.
Original bassline was EQ'ed out but it still hears playing on the backround. He played pretty much the same over it just without highest notes..
Of course pop song will need some chorus to standout from rest of the song so they added this simple pim-pom melody over it..

It is still the same track but little more slam to it to cut it through in modern pop. Really, I think it took them 5 minutes to make these basic things to it. And really, I think it didn't take too much skill either.

Edit: About sampling... This went waaayy beyond sampling and since it was done without permission from the original artist, THIS WAS STRAIGHT UP STEALING OTHER PEOPLES WORK!
Check this youtube video where some guy clarifies some points about differences of sampling and this case:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnF57sSUFAs&watch_response

edit: changed my remarks about the bassdrum
 
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