Hippie Liberal Types

[Deadpool]

Are you wiling to get your increased taxation, social welfare, government spending, universal health care, worker rights, etc at the expense of the complete elimination of policies that go against homogenization of the population?

i.e.

No more multiculturalism, affirmative action, English IS the official language, borders are militarized and illegals deported, all groups based on ethnicity or is an ethnic lobby (from the naacp to aipac to mecha) outlawed, no more duel citizenship , no more events that feature foreign flags, no more celebration of foreign holidays, etc.


If not, then stop bitching. Without the latter there will never be the former. Your rejection of the latter is just as responsible for our current backwards domestic situation as are the republicans.

 

[horror]

arent u supposed to be reading comic books little boy

 

[Deadpool]

Aren't you supposed to be contributing to the topic and not trying to hijack the thread with "insults"?

136 posts and I've already got a fan club that follows me from post to post. That has got to be some kind of record.

 

[TROLL]

Are you wiling to get your increased taxation,

which has decreased for the welathy so far...

social welfare,

has had decreased funding..

government spending,

increased for iraq

universal health care,

a bill for health care for ALL californians sits on the governers desk as we speak.. he plans to NOT sign it.. so is angiledes

worker rights,

and thats a bad thing?? why is that something we shouldnt fight for?

etc at the expense of the complete elimination of policies that go against homogenization of the population?

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–verb (used with object)
1. to form by blending unlike elements; make homogeneous.

soo eliminating the policies that blend us as a population=BAD policies that seperate us=GOOD ??? im all for eliminating policies that go against homogenization..

i.e.

No more multiculturalism,

Is happening..

affirmative action,

was fought for..

English IS the official language,

yup.. not for all americans tho..

borders are militarized and illegals deported,

Not anytime soon.. these corporate fat cats would rather see how long they can get the cheap labor..

all groups based on ethnicity or is an ethnic lobby (from the naacp to aipac to mecha) outlawed,

Slowly they will be picking at the right to organize by first banning the organizing of the most demonized organizations then down the road try and use it to leave room for them to add more labels and go against completely non violent groups.. right now we dont have the right to protest.. if u wanted to protest the president at one of his functions they send u to a "demonstratition zone" blocks away for you to hold your sign..

no more events that feature foreign flags,

You shoulda heard the bitching from the slack jawd yokels in the bay who were mad when the immigration protests were goin on, they really did try to get some intervention to prevent some brownd skind folk from holding the american flag upside down..

If not, then stop bitching. Without the latter there will never be the former. Your rejection of the latter is just as responsible for our current backwards domestic situation as are the republicans.

surely you can compile a list of these things and note their connections before making the claim that they need one another to sustain their positions.. you would be hardpressed to explain to me how workers rights are dependant on english being the offical language or even universal healthcare....

 

[XxtraMannish]

Are you wiling to get your increased taxation, social welfare, government spending, universal health care, worker rights, etc at the expense of the complete elimination of policies that go against homogenization of the population?

i.e.

No more multiculturalism, affirmative action, English IS the official language, borders are militarized and illegals deported, all groups based on ethnicity or is an ethnic lobby (from the naacp to aipac to mecha) outlawed, no more duel citizenship , no more events that feature foreign flags, no more celebration of foreign holidays, etc.


If not, then stop bitching. Without the latter there will never be the former. Your rejection of the latter is just as responsible for our current backwards domestic situation as are the republicans.

How do any of those things have anything to do with each other?

 

[TROLL]

i guess us "hippie liberal types" cant speak jibberish as well as the "nazi-neo-con right" can

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

Anytime Deadpool gets owned in a 9/11 thread...he makes a whole seperate thread degrading left-wingers,"conspiracy theorists", and anyone who thinks for themselves....its quite pathetic....

 

[XxtraMannish]

i guess us "hippie liberal types" cant speak jibberish as well as the "nazi-neo-con right" can

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[JoMoDo]

Deadpool=Tadou, any thoughts?

 

[Deadpool]

A welfare state is only possible in the presence of hyper-nationalism, in fact it's so natural that it is not even something that people notice, which is why the welfariest of welfare states are a bunch of Vikings and homogenized. When you get to the point that the idea of being part of a nation state is just something that’s there, the point beyond the bellicose nationalism of the US, then that is when strands of national unity are strong enough to have people welcome the government taking their money to help the less fortunate.

Too put it in very crude and simplistic terms:

People are more likely to give some money to support their lazy cousin Cletus because, despite it all, he is "family" than to support some hood rat who they think is gaming the system by being a "welfare queen".

Why are you even debating this, at its core your leftism is arguing for the working class to come together in the same kind of homogenized class nationalism ignoring differences of race, ethnicity and religion for the same reason. . . .Because it knows if working class whites see themselves as white and protestant equal to being workers then they will be divided from roman catholic latino workers.

The problem of course is that the rich have power and leftists and class warriors lose.

So to have social stability, you need all classes including upper classes to buy into unity, i.e., nationalism.

 

[XxtraMannish]

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[TROLL]

A welfare state is only possible in the presence of hyper-nationalism, in fact it's so natural that it is not even something that people notice, which is why the welfariest of welfare states are a bunch of Vikings and homogenized.

How can being 'hyper-nationalist' to a nation ran by an administration with the ideology of eliminating the middle class be in any shape or form supportive of a welfare state?? show me where the administration has reached out to help those on welfare.. you have yet to explain to me how 'homgenizing' of a state is in essence a bad thing?

When you get to the point that the idea of being part of a nation state is just something that’s there, the point beyond the bellicose nationalism of the US, then that is when strands of national unity are strong enough to have people welcome the government taking their money to help the less fortunate.

And can you explain to me how giving a corporation more money is going to help the working class when the working class hasn't had a cost of living adjustment in quite some time?? think since the 70's if memory serves correct..

Too put it in very crude and simplistic terms:
People are more likely to give some money to support their lazy cousin Cletus because, despite it all, he is "family" than to support some hood rat who they think is gaming the system by being a "welfare queen".

That would be more-so family values issue and not an extreme case of nationalism...

Why are you even debating this, at its core your leftism is arguing for the working class to come together in the same kind of homogenized class nationalism ignoring differences of race, ethnicity and religion for the same reason. . . .Because it knows if working class whites see themselves as white and protestant equal to being workers then they will be divided from roman catholic latino workers.

Which in turn leaves open the abilitiy for malicious manipulation, which has been taking place for years now.. if equal opportunities and affirmative action are a problem for you then you are denying that they are neccisary "racism?? in america?? nooooo" .. lets analyze a few things...

1)liberal left:
pro-worker (capitalism)
higher wages

2)Conservative right:
pro-corporation (facism)
lower taxes for the wealthy

The problem of course is that the rich have power and leftists and class warriors lose.

and yet....being hyper nationalist(i.e pro-bush) is to help the working class?!?! ive never seen so much bullshit even on a ranch.. ive known of the class war going on for a while now... and have already stated it trancsends both party lines, however, it is my belief that some in the democratic party were infiltrated.. such as the recent reports of loser liberman runnin as a democrat but having republican money funneld to him from carl rove.. so common denominator tells me that there still mite be someone who stands for the liberties and justices and freedoms that our forfathers established..
i have yet to see anybody on the 'right' do anything to benefit me..the person who works the 9 to 5... me the person blistering their feet and busting their ass to pay the rent and put food on the table.. me, the person who would have to carry a burden of heavy debt for sometime to pay for classes that i could be taught at a community college but wouldnt have the better success rate because of onez schoolz wealth, prestiege and price are exagerated for merely having been located in a more well-to do community..

so.. yeah im casting my vote this election.. im very intrested in these investigations the democrats are going to hold once they get house and/or senate..im about email my congressperson and tell them to please keep in mind that having some top officals in and help to create the 9/11 commission report admit to having been flawd with erronous mistakes, leaves the possibilty of re-opening the 9/11 investigation...and to present it NOT as a pointing finger, but instead, as a trail, as 2 where the evidence leadz.. i feel the american public needs to cast its own no confidence vote . :cheeky:

So to have social stability, you need all classes including upper classes to buy into unity, i.e., nationalism.

..our nationally appointed leaders= our nations direction..
..our nations direction= Leaving me broke and dodging a draft..
..our nations goal (i.e, nationalism) < myself and my family's well being..

 

[Deadpool]

A lot of you are allowing yourselves to be blinded/tricked into believing fallacies. Just because I disagree with your loony toons conspiracy theories on the WTC you assume that I am somehow a republican, let alone a neo-con? Using this contrived ideological picture of me (which you have no basis for) is preventing you from fully grasping the subject at hand and creates gaping wholes in your &#8220;defense&#8221; of your ACTUAL ideological leanings. Your assumptions about me personally are inhibiting your chances at intellectual debate/discussion. It&#8217;s sad.

I&#8217;ll come back to this thread later, but I have work to do.

 

[TROLL]

preventing you from fully grasping the subject at hand and creates gaping wholes in your &#8220;defense&#8221; of your ACTUAL ideological leanings.

please enlighten me on to where any of my 'ideological learnings' arent based on whats been proven..

I&#8217;ll come back to this thread later, but I have work to do.

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

A lot of you are allowing yourselves to be blinded/tricked into believing fallacies. .

You included...

 

[Deadpool]

Without getting rid of multiculturalism & affirmative action, by keeping English from being the official language, by not militarizing the border and deporting the illegals, by allowing all groups based on ethnicity or that are an ethnic lobby, by allowing duel citizenship , by allowing events that feature foreign flags, by celebrating foreign holidays, etc . . . the center pieces of Liberal ideology like increased taxation, social welfare, government spending, universal healthcare, worker rights, etc will never be realized.

 

[Deadpool]

my 'ideological learnings'

I don't recall mentioning your "learnings".

 

[TROLL]

I don't recall mentioning your "learnings".

thought it said learnings..(leanings,learnings) u knew to what i was responding too

 

[Deadpool]

leanings

learnings

:dead:

 

[Deadpool]

show me where the administration

The thread isn't a discussion of the current administration in the white house, it is a discussion of the Liberal ideology. This is just specific example of you and others allowing yourselves to be blinded/tricked into believing fallacies. Because you are so concerned with trying to discredit me by labeling me as a republican or neo-con (neither of which do i ideologically subscribe to, yet you automatically label me such because i don't support your conspiracy theories) you totally missed the point of the thread and your assumptions about me personally inhibit your chances at any serious level of intellectual debate/discussion. Again, it's sad.