Cuba's election process.

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Does anyone have any knowledge on Cuba's election process? I read on a website somewhere that 98% of Cuban's show up at elections to vote. And I also read that they vote for people not parties. I thought Cuba was a dictatorship run by an evil mad-man. What the hell are these people voting for? Don't they know they live in a dictatorship.

So my question is - does Cuba really have elections, and if so what are they voting on?
 
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Mac Buddha said:
Does anyone have any knowledge on Cuba's election process? I read on a website somewhere that 98% of Cuban's show up at elections to vote. And I also read that they vote for people not parties. I thought Cuba was a dictatorship run by an evil mad-man. What the hell are these people voting for? Don't they know they live in a dictatorship.

So my question is - does Cuba really have elections, and if so what are they voting on?


sounds like bullshit
 
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Here's a question then - If there are elections in Cuba, and they are as phoney as the last American election. Why do 97% of the voter's show up to vote? Why would they bother? Wouldn't this number go down after a while? I did a quick search on the internet for election's in Cuba, and all I could find were websites that said - Cuba does in fact have elections, 98% of the voters do show up to the polls, but they are still a sham. Most of these websites were Based out of Miami - and *none* of them showed any proof to support the fact that the the election process is a sham. So are the elections a sham? Is fidel really a dictator? Can a dictator still be a dictator if he's voted into office? Has anyone on these forum's been to Cuba?
 
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Mac Buddha said:
Here's a question then - If there are elections in Cuba, and they are as phoney as the last American election. Why do 97% of the voter's show up to vote? Why would they bother? Wouldn't this number go down after a while? I did a quick search on the internet for election's in Cuba, and all I could find were websites that said - Cuba does in fact have elections, 98% of the voters do show up to the polls, but they are still a sham. Most of these websites were Based out of Miami - and *none* of them showed any proof to support the fact that the the election process is a sham. So are the elections a sham? Is fidel really a dictator? Can a dictator still be a dictator if he's voted into office? Has anyone on these forum's been to Cuba?



Why are trying to make a big deal about it?
 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/americas/country_profiles/1203355.stm

2001 November - US exports food to Cuba for the first time in more than 40 years after a request from the Cuban government to help it cope with the aftermath of Hurricane Michelle

-- Damn, find out something new everyday. Anyhow, this is about something else....

2002 June - National Assembly amends the constitution to make Cuba's socialist system of government permanent and untouchable. Castro called for the vote in response to criticisms from US President George W Bush

-- Wow, neato

2003 March-April - Crackdown on dissidents draws international condemnation. Seventy-five people are jailed for terms of up to 28 years; three men who hijacked a ferry in an attempt to reach the US are executed

-- FUCKING COOL! Execute civilians who try to flee your country! CASTRO 4 LIFE!



Any way, thats a pretty cool timeline. I need to check this site more often and peep some of the other countries.


I still dont know the answer to your voter % question, but i guess if you know he's going to win anyways, why NOT vote and proclaim your loyalty? If anything, it gives you a better alibi when you RUN LIKE FUCK FROM THE COUNTRY! If you proclaim your allegience every election without fail......they'd never see it coming.
 
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Oh yeah, and this is from the BBC, which is 100% untouchable and cannot be questioned, because its not owned by Murdoch or Bush Corp. Which makes it automatically cool
 
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CUBA: Castro defends crackdown against US provocations
BY DOUG LORIMER

Addressing 1 million people in Havana's Jose Mart¡ Revolution Square on May Day, Cuban President Fidel Castro warned that the US government was seeking to provoke a crisis with Cuba that Washington could use to launch an Iraq-style attack on the island.

Castro noted that on April 25 “Kevin Whitaker, chief of the Cuban Bureau at the State Department, informed the head of our Interests Section in Washington that the National Security Council's Department of Homeland Security considered the continued hijackings from Cuba a serious threat to the national security of the United States, and requested that the Cuban government adopt all of the necessary measures to prevent such acts”.

On August 6, five Cubans hijacked a boat and sailed it to Florida. A second hijacking took place on November 11, when a crop duster was commandeered to the US. A boat carrying reinforced concrete and a Cuban Coast Guard vessel were then hijacked in January and February, respectively, and taken to the US.

However, the perpetrators of these crimes were simply released by US authorities, despite Cuba's request for their extradition.

The next incident took place on March 19, when six armed men hijacked a Cuban airliner and forced it to fly to Florida. While US authorities charged the hijackers with “piracy”, they refused to return the aircraft. On April 10, US courts released the hijackers of the passenger plane on bail.

It was the first hijacking of a Cuban passenger plane in flight since an immigration agreement was signed in 1994, under which Washington agreed to grant a minimum of 20,000 visas to Cubans wishing to emigrate to the US.

In the first six months of this year, which for immigration purposes began on October 1, the US Interests Section (USIS), Washington's unofficial embassy in Havana, granted less than 600 visas. This massive reduction in the granting of visas was clearly a deliberate policy by Washington to provoke a wave of hijackings that could be used to claim that Cuba was creating a threat to US “national security”.

After the hijacking of a DC-3 passenger plane on March 19, the Cuban authorities obtained evidence of 29 plans to hijack aircraft and vessels.

On April 8, a Cuban court found 10 people guilty of having hijacked a ferry six days earlier, using handguns and knives, in a failed attempt to reach Florida. The hijackers had been charged with “very grave acts of terrorism” and three men among them were given the death penalty and were executed on April 11.

Dilemma
In his May Day speech, Castro defended the use of the death penalty in this instance as a regrettable but necessary measure of deterrence.

“We fully respect the opinions of those who oppose capital punishment for religious, philosophical and humanitarian reasons”, Castro said. “We Cuban revolutionaries also abhor capital punishment, for much more profound reasons than those addressed by the social sciences with regard to crime, currently under study in our country. The day will come when we can accede to the wishes for the abolition of such penalty...

“The special concern over this issue is easily understood when you know that the majority of the people executed in the United States are African American and Hispanic, and not infrequently they are innocent, especially in Texas, the champion of death sentences, where President George Bush was formerly the governor, and not a single life has ever been pardoned.

“The Cuban Revolution was placed in the dilemma of either protecting the lives of millions of Cubans by using the legally established death penalty to punish the three main hijackers of a passenger ferry or sitting back and doing nothing. The US government, which incites common criminals to assault boats or airplanes with passengers on board, encourages these people gravely endangering the lives of innocents and creating the ideal conditions for an attack on Cuba. A wave of hijackings had been unleashed and was already in full development; it had to be stopped.

“We cannot ever hesitate when it is a question of protecting the lives of the sons and daughters of a people determined to fight until the end, arresting the mercenaries who serve the aggressors and applying the most severe sanctions against terrorists who hijack passenger boats or planes or commit similarly serious acts, who will be punished by the courts in accordance with the laws in force.”

On March 18, Cuban authorities arrested 32 opponents of the Cuban Revolution after they had been involved in three meetings, between December and March, with US diplomatic personnel at the USIS offices in Havana or at the residence of James Cason, chief of the USIS. In the following days, a further 43 opponents of the revolution were arrested.

Jailing of `dissidents'
All 75 defendants were convicted and sentenced to jail terms ranging from six to 28 years on April 3-7 by courts in Havana and other Cuban cities on criminal charges brought by government prosecutors for violations of the Cuban penal code and law 88, known as the Act for the Protection of the National Independence and the Economy of Cuba. This stipulates prison terms for anyone who “seeks information to be used in the application of the Helms-Burton Act, the blockade, and the economic war on our people, aimed at disrupting internal order, destabilising the country and liquidating the socialist state and the independence of Cuba” or who “gathers, reproduces, [or] disseminates subversive material from the government of the United States of America, its agencies, representative bodies, officials or any foreign entity to support the objectives of the Helms-Burton Act.”

Cuba's National Assembly adopted this law in 1999 to counter efforts by Washington to implement the so-called Cuban Liberty and Democratic Solidarity Act, also known as Helms-Burton Act, after its initial congressional sponsors. Approved in March 1996, this law upheld all previous measures to enforce the US trade embargo against Cuba and required they remain in place until a “transitional government” approved by Washington is set up in Havana.

One of the defendants, Osvaldo Alfonso Valdes, a member of a group called Todos Unidos (All United), had testified: “We know that the resources we receive for our work comes from funds approved by the [US] government. I recall an occasion, a meeting with an official from [United States Agency for International Development], in his office, when he had come to verify if the resources from the office had reached us.”

USAID is one of the institutions described in the Helms-Burton act as responsible for channelling financial and other material aid to anti-government agents in Cuba. According to the Associated Press, it has paid some US$20 million to US-based groups working to overthrow the Cuban government.

The jailing of the 75 paid agents of the US government has been presented in the corporate media as a Cuban government “crackdown” on “dissidents”, an accusation echoed by some who have previously opposed Washington's policies toward revolutionary Cuba. For example, well-known US critics of Washington's imperialist foreign policy Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn signed a statement initiated by the Campaign for Peace and Democracy (CPD) on April 25. The CPD is led by Joanne Landy, a member of the US ruling-class Council of Foreign Relations think tank.

The CPD statement, titled “Antiwar, social justice, and human rights advocates oppose repression in Cuba”, declares: “We condemn the arrests of scores of opponents of the Cuban government for their non-violent political activities... The imprisonment of people for attempting to exercise their rights of free expression is outrageous and unacceptable. We call on the Cuban government to release all political prisoners and let the Cuban people speak, write and organise freely.”
 
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More Questions - If The USA is authorized to grant 20,000 visa's a year to Cuban's, Why do they have another policy enticing people to leave illegally and not use the legal way? If someone hi-jack's a plane or a boat to leave your country - should they face criminal charges? The death penalty for high jacking seems a little extreme - was Fidel doing the right thing? Is it worse to put to death 3 hijackers to crack down on an ever increasing number of hijacking - or to put to death a mentally handicapped person? Was it worse of Fidel to put to death the 3 hi-jackers - or worse to put to death a 16 year old (Shareef Cousin) based on the evidence of one witness, who at first told police she couldn’t even describe the killer because “it was dark and I didn’t have my contact [lenses].” ? Can anyone tell me what the number of innocent people there are that have been proven to be innocent after they were already put to death in the USA? Is it wrong to put someone to death if you can't proove 100% that they commited the crime? Is that more wrong then putting to death 3 hijackers that were caught in the act (and were obviously guilty)? Should the death penalty be totally abolished like it is up here in Canada? Are the USA and Cuba both still living in draconian times because of the death penalty? Again these are just question's i'm just looking for answers.
 
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I HAVENT BEEN TO CUBA YET BUT I DO PLAN ON VISITING ONE DAY....ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT IS FROM MY OWN FAMILIES HISTORY....I CAN HONESTLY SAY MY FAMILY FROM CUBA ARE SOMEWHAT IGNORANT PEOPLE WHOS ONLY LEGIT BEEF WITH CASTRO IS THAT HE TOOK THIER RICHES AWAY.....THEY COULD GIVE A FUCC LESS ABOUT THE POOR WHO HAVE BENEFITED FROM HIS POLICIES OR THE SLAVES THEY USED TO OWN THAT ARE NOW FREE CUZ OF HIM.....BUT THEY HAVE BEEN LIVIN IT UP IN THE USA ANYWAYS SO ITS NOT LIKE THEY SUFFER.....
 
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OH AND I PLAN ON TALKIN TO MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT THESE THINGS BEING THAT THEY GO HOME TO CUBA A LOT....THEY SEEM HAPPY HERE AND CONTENT SO ID LIKE TO HEAR THEIR VEIWS ON CASTRO....
 
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Rippa, the BBC is probably the most prominent news source used worldwide. It is generally considered the most "fiar and balanced" (lmfao) news source in the world. It is not supported by advertising or any private interests. It is contributed to by a pool of writers and editors from different sources and parties in England.

It wasn't until the recent American era of the Republican media that it, along with anything else outside of America, has come into question. It might also play a role in the "black helicopters" flown by the U.N. over militia compounds and cities and communities in the Midwest that Republicans have tried to call our attention to.
 
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DaytonFamily said:
He talks too much shit

BY THIS JUSTIFICATION YOUR HOUSE SHOULD BE INVADED AND YOU SHOULD ALSO BE KILLED......YOUR ONE IGNORANT MAFUCCA THIS IS GATHERING OF MINDS SO GET ONE BEFORE YOU START POSTING......