Canelo Will NOT Fight On May 4th!! Floyd Scared WOW...

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Do you give credit to Chavez Sr, Oscar, B-Hop, Sugar Ray, and Manny credit for their catchweight fights?? If your answer is yes, then shut the fuck up about catchweights.
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Out of your list, Sugar Ray is the only one that would deserve any type of pass about a catchweight if you're talking about Robinson. Less weightclasses and WAY less time between fights.
 

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I'm still trying to figure out why Canelo never called out Sergio. Probably to scared to move up, see how that works
Probably scared of getting beat down. Maybe not these days, but before the Trout fight. I think he also knew he could get a fight with Floyd at some point which would pay like 949000% more than a Sergio fight. Canelo's advantage is being the bigger fighter against most guys in that weightclass, he wouldn't necessarily have that against Sergio except fight night weight.
 

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Not in the order it happened, no I don't. Eventually, yes. Absolutely. I don't think Ward wants to move up yet. The public is fickle man. If he goes up and cleans out that division, then what? People are going to want him to move up to Cruiserweight and try that. I think he's fine where he is for now and some bigger fights are more likely to present themselves from dudes moving up from 160 than at 175 any time soon. Can't really blame him for that I guess.
 
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So B-Hop didn't fight Pavlik at a catchweight?? Yes the great Hopkins fought Pavlik at a catchweight look it up. I'm really a boxing fan.
Hopkins was fighting at Light Heavy and came down. 175 to 168 is a drop. He dropped down to 170. Plus it was Pavlik who didn't want to move up to 175. Pavlik was calling out names, not Bernard.

Floyd and Canelo are both 154.
I'd understand if Floyd was moving up to fight at 160 or down to 147, but he isn't. He just wants to get whatever edge he can.
 
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Hopkins was fighting at Light Heavy and came down. 175 to 168 is a drop. He dropped down to 170. Plus it was Pavlik who didn't want to move up to 175. Pavlik was calling out names, not Bernard.

Floyd and Canelo are both 154.
I'd understand if Floyd was moving up to fight at 160 or down to 147, but he isn't. He just wants to get whatever edge he can.
So now you have an excuse on why Hopkins fought at a catchweight. The fact is that he fought at a catchweight point blank period. Why does B-Hop get a pass??
 
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Out of your list, Sugar Ray is the only one that would deserve any type of pass about a catchweight if you're talking about Robinson. Less weightclasses and WAY less time between fights.
You are talking in circles. Please explain to me how only Sugar Ray gets a pass I would love to hear this bullshit. You didn't even know who was fight at catchweights yesterday but now u are giving out passes too funny. Please explain.
 
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The difference is, Dawson called out Ward and in the same breath said he would go to 168. Canelo isn't doing that then saying, let's fight at 147.
Talking in circles because Canelo called out Mayweather so shouldn't he meet the guy you called out terms? You are proving my point about the double standards it's cool for everyone else but not Mayweather.
 
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So now you have an excuse on why Hopkins fought at a catchweight. The fact is that he fought at a catchweight point blank period. Why does B-Hop get a pass??
First, a catchweight is meant for 2 fighters who aren't even in the same class.
Second, it was Pavlik who didn't want to move up.

Just like how Ward didn't want to move up to fight Dawson.
The bigger one came down.

Floyd and Canelo are in the EXACT SAME weight class.
Where is the justification in this? There is absolutely none. What does there even need to be a catch for? There doesn't need to be one. It should have been at 154. It's because Floyd wants an edge. That's it...
 
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You are talking in circles. Please explain to me how only Sugar Ray gets a pass I would love to hear this bullshit. You didn't even know who was fight at catchweights yesterday but now u are giving out passes too funny. Please explain.
I just explained it smart guy. Read what I said. I'm not talking in circles. I said what I said clearly.
 

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First, a catchweight is meant for 2 fighters who aren't even in the same class.
Second, it was Pavlik who didn't want to move up.

Just like how Ward didn't want to move up to fight Dawson.
The bigger one came down.

Floyd and Canelo are in the EXACT SAME weight class.
Where is the justification in this? There is absolutely none. What does there even need to be a catch for? There doesn't need to be one. It should have been at 154. It's because Floyd wants an edge. That's it...
Dude they are not in the same weight class. Floyd went up twice in his life to fight at 154. He is a tru welterweight who could probably be a junior welterweight. Out of 45 fights only 2 have been at 154. Canelo fights at 154 but should be at 160 minimum. Dude comes into the ring at around 170. Is that enough reasons to have a catch weight fight???? Got Em!!
 

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Why should Canelo be at 160 minimum? And if he should be at 160 minimum, then why is it excusable for him to have to shed an extra 2 lbs for this fight to fight "the best fighter ever?"

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The point is, this fight is clearly tainted by the catchweight. The last several pages of people talking about this fight across different threads has nothing to do with punching power, or skill, or age, it's been about weight. There's obviously some of us that thought Floyd should've just stepped up and fought him at 154 where he's already a titlist at that weight. There's some of you who don't care, no matter what Floyd does. All that matters now, is the fight has been made. If Canelo didn't agree with the weight, he shouldn't have signed off on it. I don't like the weight, but it is what it is and it's too late to really complain about it.
 
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Canelo shouldnt have agreed to it but maybe he became desperate for the fight. He did say he would go down to 150 previously if he was able to fight Mayweather, what a dumbass lol. Goldenboy is so retarded, another fighter technically thrown to the wolves that could have made them a lot of money the next couple years. His stock will never be the same after he loses to Mayweather and Canelo may never be the same. The only fighters i can think of that has done decent after fighting Mayweather is Corales and Marquez.
 
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Canelo shouldnt have agreed to it but maybe he became desperate for the fight. He did say he would go down to 150 previously if he was able to fight Mayweather, what a dumbass lol. Goldenboy is so retarded, another fighter technically thrown to the wolves that could have made them a lot of money the next couple years. His stock will never be the same after he loses to Mayweather and Canelo may never be the same. The only fighters i can think of that has done decent after fighting Mayweather is Corales and Marquez.
I disagree. Canelo is 22. If he loses to Floyd there is absolutely no shame there and he'll still have a big following. Further, if he does good, maybe wins some rounds and gives Floyd a tough fight that will be huge for him because everyone will point out how young he is and I'm sure some people will say he was weight drained (like how bigface did against Pacquiao -Cotto).

I always don't see Canelo taking a physical beating since Floyd appears to be focusing more on his defense abilities now that he's training with his father. So likely Floyd will out box him, get a decision but I doubt Canelo will get beat up (unless his stamina fails him and he runs out of gas late but I doubt it).
 
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Dude they are not in the same weight class. Floyd went up twice in his life to fight at 154. He is a tru welterweight who could probably be a junior welterweight. Out of 45 fights only 2 have been at 154. Canelo fights at 154 but should be at 160 minimum. Dude comes into the ring at around 170. Is that enough reasons to have a catch weight fight???? Got Em!!
You can say Floyd is a true welterweight which I agree with but Floyd is technically in the same division. He's number 1 and Canelo is champion. Floyd owns the WBA 154 pound belt, in a fight he won at the full weight of 154.
 

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Yeah, in reality, he'll be fine. Worst thing that could happen to him is he pulls a Victor Ortiz vs. Maidana which is impossible to imagine him doing. Other than that, he will get so much publicity out of this that it'll only figure to help him in the long run
 

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Why should Canelo be at 160 minimum? And if he should be at 160 minimum, then why is it excusable for him to have to shed an extra 2 lbs for this fight to fight "the best fighter ever?"

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The point is, this fight is clearly tainted by the catchweight. The last several pages of people talking about this fight across different threads has nothing to do with punching power, or skill, or age, it's been about weight. There's obviously some of us that thought Floyd should've just stepped up and fought him at 154 where he's already a titlist at that weight. There's some of you who don't care, no matter what Floyd does. All that matters now, is the fight has been made. If Canelo didn't agree with the weight, he shouldn't have signed off on it. I don't like the weight, but it is what it is and it's too late to really complain about it.
Dude he needs to shed 2 extra pounds because he blows up to 170 on fight night. He is fighting in a division he shouldnt even be in. Floyd aint stupid. That dude is much bigger than Floyd. Thats Canelo's advantage so now fighting at 152 evens it out. Yall act like they are the same size?? hahahah. Yall kill me with this shit. I dont give a fuck who is complaining about the catchweight. Floyd will win and get his props from his tru fans like he always does. Only the haterz hate. There have been tons of catch weight fights but now everyone wants to complain because Floyd finally did one to a much bigger fighter. Stop it. Just get ready for the fight and keep those excuses for the next man. Got Em!!

You can say Floyd is a true welterweight which I agree with but Floyd is technically in the same division. He's number 1 and Canelo is champion. Floyd owns the WBA 154 pound belt, in a fight he won at the full weight of 154.
206 u know what I mean dude. He fought there twice and won a belt. He isnt a tru 154 and rarely fights there thats all I am saying. Also he never weighed in at 154 on either fight. He was 151 so he cant even get up to 154 be real. Got Em!!
 
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I disagree. Canelo is 22. If he loses to Floyd there is absolutely no shame there and he'll still have a big following. Further, if he does good, maybe wins some rounds and gives Floyd a tough fight that will be huge for him because everyone will point out how young he is and I'm sure some people will say he was weight drained (like how bigface did against Pacquiao -Cotto).

I always don't see Canelo taking a physical beating since Floyd appears to be focusing more on his defense abilities now that he's training with his father. So likely Floyd will out box him, get a decision but I doubt Canelo will get beat up (unless his stamina fails him and he runs out of gas late but I doubt it).
I get what ur saying but thing Canelos stamina is already very questionable. Trouts work rate really gave Canelo problems and Canelo is not use to fighting someone with nearly as close to of hand speed that Mayweather has. I just have that feeling he will be gassed by the 6th and Mayweather will start really letting him have it and i could even see a tko happening. Mayweather may not have the strongest punches but if enough of his shots land they will definitely fuck Canelo up
 
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