Astrology is bullshit. Astrology is bullshit. Astrology is bullshit.

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Alright, can we all just agree that people can't cast spells and astrology is bullshit? While we're at it, let's stop using the phrase "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual." Every time I hear anyone call themselves "spiritual," it's just after they mention astrology and just before I land a flying elbow to their ovaries (as anyone who believes in astrology is undoubtedly a woman who needs to be punched in the crotch). Most people who read horoscopes also buy into other new age crap like tarot cards and self-healing.

Self healing? Self healing was perfected by Rambo in Rambo: First Blood when he stitched his arm shut after he cracked a kid's back while jumping off a cliff (and the only reason his arm split open was because he's so tough he wanted to make the bad guys think they had a chance, but yeah right.. it was like Rambo sent them all Christmas cards, but instead of cards it was murder).

The other thing that pisses me off about horoscopes is that some people make financial decisions based off them. Re-read that sentence a few times until the implications set in. Yes, there are mouth-breathers out there who literally believe clumps of rocks and dirt floating around pockets of gas have anything to do with their stocks and lottery winnings.




Ever notice how people ask you what sign you are and always say "I knew it" only after you tell them which one? That's because they're full of shit. It doesn't matter what sign you tell them you are, they'll always say "yeah, you're totally a [fill in asinine symbol], I can tell." No, you can't tell because you're an idiot. I hate it when people ask me what "sign" I am. You want to know what my sign is? Here:



Astrological signs are based off arbitrary Zodiac symbols drawn by people who also believed that light from stars came from vents on burning chariot wheels. I mean, do you people even read this shit? Here's a sample horoscope I found on some sap-magnet website:

Creative energy, especially involving writing or speaking, could be overflowing within you today. Ideas could be coming thick and fast, dear Leo. You might want to call some old friends and discuss your thoughts with them.

Creative energy? What the hell is creative energy? Also, notice how the tone is set by the use of "...dear Leo," as if some ancient sage (aka, fat "Lord of the Rings" nerd) was addressing a dear old friend (that would be you, the lonely house wife), at which point you would feel vindicated in spending $19.95 on your newly acquired Brazilian power crystal, just as an executive from a psychic hotline does a line of coke off a hooker's ass with the millions he's raked in from morons like you.

I especially like the "could be overflowing" part, which covers the astrologer's ass in the unlikely event that the horoscope was horse shit and has nothing to do with anyone or anything in the universe. Of course, that would constitute fraud, so thankfully we have the doctrine of uncertainty to protect psychics everywhere from malpractice lawsuits. Otherwise an entire industry of aging hippies and their clientele comprised of middle-class 16 year old girls and bored house wives trudging aimlessly from one rebellious new-age religion to the next would have to find a new hobby. Who knows? They might even get jobs.

967,215 planets were aligned when this article was written, affecting precisely dick.

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i feel your pain man but wheres all this comming from?were surrounded by dumb fucks day by day, i would have thought that you would have learned to just brush this shit off as well of all the other fucked up demented shit that lingers in the heads of these poor sheep. the only thing i can say with astorlogy is i could belive that the gravitational pull of all the planets does effect us in some way, but how the fuck would we start putting our finger on it. its jus matter over mind, shit we wont beable to comprehend, we know somethings out there, but its to big for us to even start fathoming about .But people that put there finacial futures at line because of zodiac readings deserve to fucking loose there money
heres the truest shit iv herd about astrology
your a cancer???? YOU GONNA DIE
your a Leo????????YOU GONNA DIE
your a gemini?????YOU GONNA DIE TWICE
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nefar559 said:
The other thing that pisses me off about horoscopes is that some people make financial decisions based off them. Re-read that sentence a few times until the implications set in. Yes, there are mouth-breathers out there who literally believe clumps of rocks and dirt floating around pockets of gas have anything to do with their stocks and lottery winnings.

How about the use by the President and First Lady of astrology to guide in the making of important decisions in the White House?

And people scoff at the Romanov's for Rasputin. :rolleyes:
 

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astrology says a taurus has certain traits, i for some reason am very similar to what they say. but i reckon that evryday shit they write in teh paper and lucky numbers and stuff is bullshit.
 

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nefar559 said:
Alright, can we all just agree that people can't cast spells and astrology is bullshit?
No

nefar559 said:
While we're at it, let's stop using the phrase "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual.
Why so? If one lives by a certain way and does not believe in a deitiey in various aspects (ways one would percieve a deity) Why wouldnt he say hes not religous? I think it would matter on what your perception of a religon is because its obvious there are many diffrent forms of religion.


nefar559 said:
" Every time I hear anyone call themselves "spiritual," it's just after they mention astrology and just before I land a flying elbow to their ovaries
Haha. As with the variety of religons there are variations of one being "spiritual".

nefar559 said:
(as anyone who believes in astrology is undoubtedly a woman who needs to be punched in the crotch).
I read somewhere that 78% of astrologers are male.....aaannd id be willing to bet they believe in their work. (astrology).

nefar559 said:
Most people who read horoscopes also buy into other new age crap like tarot cards and self-healing.
Not really. Most would consider tarot cards too pagan cuz they have a satanic effegy

nefar559 said:
Self healing? Self healing was perfected by Rambo in Rambo: First Blood when he stitched his arm shut after he cracked a kid's back while jumping off a cliff (and the only reason his arm split open was because he's so tough he wanted to make the bad guys think they had a ch ance, but yeah right.. it was like Rambo sent them all Christmas cards, but instead of cards it was murder).

....My take on self healing is that its psychosematic but i also believe you can in a sense, trick the connection from brain to point of wound to either reduce pain signals from nerves or slow bleeding by slowing the heart beat. (think adenaline also)

nefar559 said:
The other thing that pisses me off about horoscopes is that some people make financial decisions based off them. Re-read that sentence a few times until the implications set in. Yes, there are mouth-breathers out there who literally believe clumps of rocks and dirt floating around pockets of gas have anything to do with their stocks and lottery winnings.
Yeah, one of lifes lessons is to take everything with a grain of salt...lottery is a gambleing game and some would rather "try their luck" with some predestined numbers, but how often do u see somebody non chalantly choose there numbers by not even caring what numbers they picked..Would someone acutally THINKING about the numbers they are about to play trying to be psychic??? wouldn't the odds tell them they might as well even close their eyes and begin choosing randomly?

nefar559 said:
Ever notice how people ask you what sign you are and always say "I knew it" only after you tell them which one? That's because they're full of shit.It doesn't matter what sign you tell them you are, they'll always say "yeah, you're totally a [fill in asinine symbol], I can tell." No, you can't tell because you're an idiot. I hate it when people ask me what "sign" I am. You want to know what my sign is? Here:
Yeah, The thing about horoscopes is that there are diffrent writers for every piece you read. I think the biggest problem is that some of them get wayyy too cryptic and not more specific, However, i cant totally discredit it for the simple fact that some of those paragraphs that ive read have damn near plotted out my whole day to a T. And also most of the characteristics of my sign match to who i am.








nefar559 said:
Astrological signs are based off arbitrary Zodiac symbols drawn by people who also believed that light from stars came from vents on burning chariot wheels. I mean, do you people even read this shit? Here's a sample horoscope I found on some sap-magnet website:

Creative energy, especially involving writing or speaking, could be overflowing within you today. Ideas could be coming thick and fast, dear Leo. You might want to call some old friends and discuss your thoughts with them.

Creative energy? What the hell is creative energy?
Energy fluctuating through you and its want to be focused on any of your creative talents folx.

nefar559 said:
Also, notice how the tone is set by the use of "...dear Leo," as if some ancient sage (aka, fat "Lord of the Rings" nerd) was addressing a dear old friend (that would be you, the lonely house wife), at which point you would feel vindicated in spending $19.95 on your newly acquired Brazilian power crystal, just as an executive from a psychic hotline does a line of coke off a hooker's ass with the millions he's raked in from morons like you.
Realtalk. Those rock's are best found :knockout:


nefar559 said:
I especially like the "could be overflowing" part, which covers the astrologer's ass in the unlikely event that the horoscope was horse shit and has nothing to do with anyone or anything in the universe. Of course, that would constitute fraud, so thankfully we have the doctrine of uncertainty
(haha, i like the wording)

nefar559 said:
to protect psychics everywhere from malpractice lawsuits.
You will never see a horoscope claim it is 100% nor a psychic claim to be 100% accurate. As it is an Ability,Where you would need to know what the correct excercise to further progress be. Many people have diffrent ideas as to what would stimulate a "third eye" of sorts but i am unsure if anyone has ever found any that have been 100% successful which would seem to be the criterea for some peoples prospects of deeming one authentic.

nefar559 said:
Otherwise an entire industry of aging hippies and their clientele comprised of middle-class 16 year old girls and bored house wives trudging aimlessly from one rebellious new-age religion to the next would have to find a new hobby. Who knows? They might even get jobs.
I dunno. If its merely an industry thats justifying the discredit of what has been come to be known as a phenomenon even before there was a phone to make calls on. i disagree. I dont think all psychics are on the television or on the other end of the phone spouting cryptic ramblings...I believe that if some were to posses a psychic ability that they would learn to prosper with the gift without letting anyone kno at all.. :angry:

nefar559 said:
967,215 planets were aligned when this article was written, affecting precisely dick.

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Ignorance, Ignorance

nefar559 said:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=astrology

Alright, can we all just agree that people can't cast spells and astrology is bullshit? While we're at it, let's stop using the phrase "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual." Every time I hear anyone call themselves "spiritual," it's just after they mention astrology and just before I land a flying elbow to their ovaries (as anyone who believes in astrology is undoubtedly a woman who needs to be punched in the crotch). Most people who read horoscopes also buy into other new age crap like tarot cards and self-healing.
Why do you hold such hostility towards this subject? From first impression, you seem like a very young soul. Spirituality can include anything from meditation and reiki practitioning, to just believing in protecting the enviornment. You have a soul, a spirit, so if you are not religious, then why can't you be spiritual? Are you just hostile towards the "saying"? If you are going to attack something, have some intelligence and facts to back it up instead of just a lame opinion. And what's with the woman bashing?

I completely disagree that spell casting and magic are false. I also know that self-healing is very real, I practice it on a daily basis, along with psychic abilities. Do you disregard them because you cannot fathom that you could possibly have the ability to heal yourself and others and dabble in the astral plane? You give your mind little credit for the powerful creation that it is. Instead of being ignorant and talking shit, why don't you pick up a book?
 
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MackRavenn said:
You have a soul, a spirit, so if you are not religious, then why can't you be spiritual?


There are many people, including yours truly, that do not believe in souls, but to each his own.

I don’t know if your reply was really directed at nefar559 or if you're just generally speaking, but I'm pretty sure nefar559 didn’t write that and I don’t think the author posts on this board.
 
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MackRavenn said:
Why do you hold such hostility towards this subject? From first impression, you seem like a very young soul. Spirituality can include anything from meditation and reiki practitioning, to just believing in protecting the enviornment. You have a soul, a spirit, so if you are not religious, then why can't you be spiritual? Are you just hostile towards the "saying"? If you are going to attack something, have some intelligence and facts to back it up instead of just a lame opinion. And what's with the woman bashing?

I completely disagree that spell casting and magic are false. I also know that self-healing is very real, I practice it on a daily basis, along with psychic abilities. Do you disregard them because you cannot fathom that you could possibly have the ability to heal yourself and others and dabble in the astral plane? You give your mind little credit for the powerful creation that it is. Instead of being ignorant and talking shit, why don't you pick up a book?

i didnt write the article, i just found it assmuing....you wanna talk about facts? in this world the only thing certain we has humans can beleive to be true is science.

i dont see myself as ignorant. If you really do believe these things to be true, why havent it been studied? i mean by universities, where are the science journals talking about this?
 

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I've tried Reiki before, but it didn't work for me. However, my mum always does it, and for her it works. Maybe it's just a belief thing - Perhaps it's just the placebo effect or something like that. Or perhaps it does really work (maybe my strong belief that it wouldn't work gave me a kind-of negative placebo effect or something). Either way, it's another case of believe or don't. I don't. I can't help but laugh at people who attribute certain traits to me because I was born under such-and-such moon, and Jupiter was in a certain angle and shit like that. I'm a pisces myself, and sure, when I read the newspaper horoscopes, I often find myself thinking 'yeah, that sounds about right'. But then I also say that for several other horoscopes. This would have me believe that not only am I a Pisces, but I'm also an Aries, Leo, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Gemini AND Libra. Damn, I must have been a fat baby!
 
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^^I was just about to say something similar but you beat me to it.

I knew this guy in AZ who took this shit seriously- had tons of books on it, studied them every night. But he didn’t actually believe the shit; he just used it as a way to pick up girls and man that shit worked like crazy. So many broads are into this kind of shit and they’d fall for him every time. He’d walk up to them, ask them there sign and then he’d just go off about how they are this, and how they are that and he’d tell them what they need etc. These broads would almost instantly fall in love talking about how he knows everything about me and he’s so “spiritual.” lol, whatever works I guess.
 
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My thoughts....

nefar559 said:
i didnt write the article, i just found it assmuing....you wanna talk about facts? in this world the only thing certain we has humans can beleive to be true is science.

i dont see myself as ignorant. If you really do believe these things to be true, why havent it been studied? i mean by universities, where are the science journals talking about this?

Why is all science to be believed as completely true? There are many things that we find on a daily basis in science, and then down the road we come back and say "Oops! We were wrong! It's really this, or it's not true at all..." So as far as science goes, there are many holes in it too.
I study all these things on a daily basis. I am living, breathing, truth that the experience is there and possible--I live with it everyday. Furthermore, as far as studies go, you must think of how many studies you read that are biased writings and don't uncover the whole truth of the matter. We must remember that we are controlled in many different ways by every type of publicity. Relying in only science isn't smart because we are never being told the complete truth. Just like with religion, publicity and information is a way of controlling society. Everything should be looked at with open eyes and open minds.
As far as pseudoscience not being logical, life itself isn't logical either, but here we are! How is it that we can only rely on science because its "proof"? We can touch and feel things of the earth around us and they are there. Yet, we still have not figured out how these thoughts and emotions come from something solid which we carry in our bodies. You cannot touch them, or see them. But you experience and witness them. Sure, we can say..oh they come from electrical currents in the brain, and whatnot, but does that logically explain how they exist? Just because it isn't logical doesn't mean it isn't there or possible.
Like I said before, the brain has extreme abilities which most of society could not fathom. We are such followers and under such control, that as we perfom day by day activities we might as well be in a hypnotic state. Reaching out with your mind to its extreme limits results in the unbelieveable, and until it is taught and experienced, no one believes it.
 
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As far as astrology goes, it is one thing I do not pay attention to as much.
But Reiki I have found astoudingly true. Some genereal information:
We are all connected to the universe through our etheral bodies (chakras) and when Reiki is practiced, you are pulling the energy through your chakras and releasing them out of the chakras in your hands or feet. Once you open the channel to draw energy, it never ceases, and it never closes. The reason why healing of this sort does work is because being able to draw this energy though you causes your bodies' vibrational energy to increase. If you are willing to recieve the energy from the universe, then you will naturally accept it. But however, a strong disbelief in it will cause you to not accept it, because your chakras are closed as well as your mind. Reiki practitioners know this because the energy never transfers from their body into yours, which they can feel.
 
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^^

nefar559 said:
i didnt write the article, i just found it assmuing....you wanna talk about facts? in this world the only thing certain we has humans can beleive to be true is science.

i dont see myself as ignorant. If you really do believe these things to be true, why havent it been studied? i mean by universities, where are the science journals talking about this?

This society isn't concerned with that. Early on in our historical development, christianity and the catholic church teamed up with ignorant, frightened individuals to basically call witch craft and magic "the devil". Ever since then, it has been stifled to the point of myth. Im a level 1 Reiki practitioner, and as anyone whose seen me post on here, a logical person.

And calling these ancient arts "New Age" really shows the youth of this country...the U.S has barely been around a couple hundred years, Reiki has been practiced since before the time of Jesus...
 
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MackRavenn said:

Why is all science to be believed as completely true? There are many things that we find on a daily basis in science, and then down the road we come back and say "Oops! We were wrong! It's really this, or it's not true at all..." So as far as science goes, there are many holes in it too.
i dont think you understand science. What you talk about is the observations and hypothesis that are made almost all the time, and then are harshy tested, by others in the scienctific community. Some pass and become theories, but years later might be broken, and few of them become laws.

Religion doesnt do this, anything based on faith doesnt do this. And most people who make bizzard claims wont give in to the test of science. Science is our true understanding of this universe.

MackRavenn said:


As far as pseudoscience not being logical, life itself isn't logical either, but here we are! How is it that we can only rely on science because its "proof"? We can touch and feel things of the earth around us and they are there. Yet, we still have not figured out how these thoughts and emotions come from something solid which we carry in our bodies. You cannot touch them, or see them. But you experience and witness them. Sure, we can say..oh they come from electrical currents in the brain, and whatnot, but does that logically explain how they exist? Just because it isn't logical doesn't mean it isn't there or possible.
again you dont understand science. As far as human emotions are concerned, we as humans know every little about them. And the last thing i'm goign to look for information on this subject is some cult. But logically they are being explained why they exsist, but they are theories, based on science.

you said that life isnt logical, but some are saying that its the rule.
http://wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/machines_pr.html

MackRavenn said:


Like I said before, the brain has extreme abilities which most of society could not fathom. We are such followers and under such control, that as we perfom day by day activities we might as well be in a hypnotic state. Reaching out with your mind to its extreme limits results in the unbelieveable, and until it is taught and experienced, no one believes it.
i agree, with the mind having an effect on the phyiscal being of a person. Just read what Hutch stated, about the placebo effect.
 
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KrypticFlowz said:
This society isn't concerned with that. Early on in our historical development, christianity and the catholic church teamed up with ignorant, frightened individuals to basically call witch craft and magic "the devil". Ever since then, it has been stifled to the point of myth.
i dont think relgion and ignorants pushed witchcraft and magic towards myth. Science is doing that. Religion and ignorant is now pushing this country towards shit...lol


KrypticFlowz said:
And calling these ancient arts "New Age" really shows the youth of this country...the U.S has barely been around a couple hundred years, Reiki has been practiced since before the time of Jesus...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reiki said:
Reiki is said by its practitioners to be a form of complementary or alternative medicine, developed (or rediscovered) during the Meiji period (the late 19th century) by Mikao Usui (usui mikao 臼井甕男) in Japan. It has gained popularity throughout the Western World. Nevertheless, because of the lack of objective evidence for its theories or its results, the scientific establishment considers Reiki to be quackery.
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Many scientists, health care workers and others dispute the effectiveness of Reiki, claiming that there are no objective studies confirming the existence of this specific Reiki energy or practitioners' claims that this Reiki energy has the capacity to facilitate healing beyond that expected from the placebo effect. At the same time, a growing number of healthcare workers (medical doctors, nurses, mental health professionals, hospice and nursing home workers, and other healthcare providers) recognize that Reiki does appear to have some beneficial effect on the recipient and is a worthwhile inclusion in both professional training and patient care (to wit, registered nurses may earn continuing education units, or CEUs, through the American Holistic Nurses Association, accredited by the American Nurses Credentialing Center, for Reiki training.)