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Hood Rat Matt

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Hey bro,

Sorry to hear you're experiencing this. I've never experienced either and used to think anxiety and depression are made up by people who have nothing better to do or going on in their life until both got a severe hold of me last year at the age of 34.

I still haven't found a solution but I can tell you what takes the edge of for me to keep me fighting.
1. Do not smoke weed or drink. Both are depressants and I found they will hinder your ability to fight what you're going through.

2. Weight lifting. I always lifted but I train extra hard when I'm going through it and I feel it's saved my life.

3. Maintain a routine. Get up at the same time every morning, make your bed every morning, have a breakfast around the same time etc.

I got this from a guy I look up to called Jordan Petersen, he is a world famous clinical psychologist who specialised in helping young men. Loads of material from him on youtube.

Good luck. Those of us who have had to fight these demons know this isn't easy.
I agree with all of this...I've taken a ton from Dr. Peterson's lectures. It's not always easy to put into daily practice, but it will turn everything around if you take on this lifestyle.

Something that's helped me is focusing on breathing deeply. I tend to hold my breath when I get stressed/anxious and it really makes things worse

If you don't mind sharing, which antidepressant are you trying? I've tried several and most didn't help. I felt numb from them. No high highs and no low lows, which is too robotic for me. If you can't function, they can help...but I see a lot of people who take multiple antidepressants and still seem like a mess.

One thing that's useful to keep in mind is that this all will pass...and shit can be a whole lot worse. The fact that you're opening up about what you're feeling is a big step toward fixing it
 

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stayschemin
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I agree with all of this...I've taken a ton from Dr. Peterson's lectures. It's not always easy to put into daily practice, but it will turn everything around if you take on this lifestyle.

Something that's helped me is focusing on breathing deeply. I tend to hold my breath when I get stressed/anxious and it really makes things worse

If you don't mind sharing, which antidepressant are you trying? I've tried several and most didn't help. I felt numb from them. No high highs and no low lows, which is too robotic for me. If you can't function, they can help...but I see a lot of people who take multiple antidepressants and still seem like a mess.

One thing that's useful to keep in mind is that this all will pass...and shit can be a whole lot worse. The fact that you're opening up about what you're feeling is a big step toward fixing it
It’s called Wellbutrin. Supposedly connects the neurons in your brain and changes your overall feeling over time. I just stopped taking it though, today is the first day I got off. It was too early to experience any particular effect since I only took them for around two weeks too.

Appreciate it bro, I wanted to ask the Sicc since most of you guys are OGs and have a pretty firm grasp on life. At least much better than I do since I’m 21. The breathing exercises are legit, I find it calms me down when I’m bugging about something, it just happens a bit too often and I wanna tone the overall negativity down.
 
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The breathing exercises are legit, I find it calms me down when I’m bugging about something, it just happens a bit too often and I wanna tone the overall negativity down.
You ever try breathing meditation? I do it 15-20 minutes a day. Helps with anxiety, stress and sleep.

You basically just close your eyes, keep your head straight, clear your mind completely and focus on your breathing. I usually put on some relaxing music while I do it also, helps keep my thoughts clear.

It's hard to explain the state your mind hits once your able to clear your mind of thought, it's extremely soothing.
 

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You ever try breathing meditation? I do it 15-20 minutes a day. Helps with anxiety, stress and sleep.

You basically just close your eyes, keep your head straight, clear your mind completely and focus on your breathing. I usually put on some relaxing music while I do it also, helps keep my thoughts clear.

It's hard to explain the state your mind hits once your able to clear your mind of thought, it's extremely soothing.
it sounds lame, but my apple watch reminds me to breathe sometimes and I'll put on my heart rate app and watch the bpm go down from focusing on my breathing...really is a simple, but effective thing you can do anywhere for free
 
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I've seen my therapist since I was a junior in high school, I'm currently about to be a senior in college. When I was in high school, she recommended antidepressants, but I always passed because I felt uncomfortable with putting pills I don't know shit about inside of my body. I also would say I had significantly less life experience back then and just generally was nowhere near as smart as I am now. Which is normal.

Wait a minute, you've been going to this person for that long and you are to the extent of reaching out for help publicly? That should tell you something about them and what they provide you right there. How long are you going to keep yourself in this position in your life (rhetorical question)? You are in control of you. You need knowledge of self. Most these cats don't know what they are talking about breh, forget the dumb shit.
 
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What you just described are Medical Doctors not therapists. A PhD therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist (the one's who actually can prescribe medication) have zero requirements for retain, especially therapists in private practice. Licensed counselors (with no PhD or Doctorate) on the other hand, do have to retrain and keep up current on certs, but they also can't prescribe medication and are generally good people who's sole purpose is to talk to you. These are the people who generally have your best interest at heart and will try every last effort before recommending you to go see somebody who does prescribe pills.

There's numerous articles I've read throughout the years, most written by therapists themselves that talk about the lack of advancement in therapy in decades. You should read them, they're easy to find.



5 years? The opioid epidemic was known about in the 90's. Oxy's were in the news regularly back then for killing people. And what do you mean by "doctors no longer prescribe them"? There's literally news articles almost every day from all over the country about doctors currently as we speak over prescribing them.....hence the epidemic.



The corporate logos all over their offices tell me otherwise.



The problem is they advocate medication on DAY ONE. They don't allow people to try lifestyle changes first before



You're putting a lot of trust in to the word "trained". Hospitals for example pay billions of dollars a year in America for medical malpractice, because these "trained professionals" fuck up regularly. The different between MD's and therapists though is you generally have proof when an MD fucks up. You can't sue a therapist for getting you strung out on pills.
Psychiatrists are doctors and psychologists can’t prescribe medicine and I didn’t say anything about a therapist so not sure how to follow. I disagree that opioids are still being prescribed like candy. I disagree that doctors solely rely on medication and don’t suggest lifestyle changes first. I disagree with your assessment that doctor training is no good. I’m not following your comments about malpractice insurance because every individual or employer purchases insurance policy as a cost of doing business to mitigate risk.

Your opinion is that doctors are in the pocket of big pharma and the social worker is the good guy. Cool. My opinion is doctors are concerned with patient health and give diagnoses and recommendations within the scope of what western medicine provides. Doctors do not feed people medications to make side money from big pharma. So like I said, we have our own opinions and I’ll leave it at that. And I’m speaking about 99% of doctors and not the one lunatic you see on the news.
 

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stayschemin
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Wait a minute, you've been going to this person for that long and you are to the extent of reaching out for help publicly? That should tell you something about them and what they provide you right there. How long are you going to keep yourself in this position in your life (rhetorical question)? You are in control of you. You need knowledge of self. Most these cats don't know what they are talking about breh, forget the dumb shit.
You right bro I respect that.

It’s been on and off with my therapist, I saw her a lot my junior year of hs and a lot more recently. I’ve encountered a number of problems and honestly blame myself for a lot of them. I’m just having difficulty being consistent.
 
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Psychiatrists are doctors and psychologists can’t prescribe medicine and I didn’t say anything about a therapist so not sure how to follow.
A doctorate makes a doctor, not a title. Psychiatrists and Therapists with Doctorates can prescribe. The person who created the thread is seeing a therapist, hence the reason I bring up therapists as the title of the person that is prescribing medication more often than not. Try and keep up.

I disagree that opioids are still being prescribed like candy.
So you disagree with fact. Google "opioid epidemic" and you'll get articles written today....yesterday....the day before....the day before that....the day before that....and on and on and on. Guess what is generally included in said articles? Data that shows doctors are still prescribing opioids like candy, hence the epidemic.

I disagree that doctors solely rely on medication and don’t suggest lifestyle changes first.
Talk to somebody who has seen a mental health professional who has the ability to prescribe. They'll disagree with your disagreement. I've literally never met somebody who wasn't offered a prescription on day one, not a single person. You think math would dictate I would have met at least one person if these mental health professionals suggested life style changes first right?

I disagree with your assessment that doctor training is no good.
You should read more, like I said earlier a lot of mental health professionals are agreeing that mental health training is old and needs updating. Most mental health professionals can receive their doctorate and never again have to be re-trained. That's a problem, no matter if you're for or against what they do for a living.

This is a direct quote from -you- that is a major red flag on their training. "Doctor’s prescribed opioids because medical research indicated there were almost no consequences - in the past 5 years or so medical research has shown the consequences of opioids "

In your own words you stated that these trained professionals fucked people over for decades based on their -training- and then basically said "oops my bad".


I’m not following your comments about malpractice insurance because every individual or employer purchases insurance policy as a cost of doing business to mitigate risk.
It was a comment in regards of your complete trust in "trained professionals" since "trained professionals" are the reason for malpractice, because "trained professionals" fuck up regularly. It's a comparison to further discussion. Reading comprehension is your friend.

Your opinion is that doctors are in the pocket of big pharma and the social worker is the good guy. Cool. My opinion is doctors are concerned with patient health and give diagnoses and recommendations within the scope of what western medicine provides.
Once again for the 3rd time in this thread I'll bring up the question.....why does nearly every doctors office in this country have Big Pharma logos plastered all over the office.

Big Pharma is giving doctors $20 billion a year to push their products.

https://arstechnica.com/science/201...-30b-on-marketing-most-of-it-goes-to-doctors/


Doctors do not feed people medications to make side money from big pharma. And I’m speaking about 99% of doctors and not the one lunatic you see on the news.
99% is a gross over exaggeration. I'll say the phrase "read more" once again. Every few days large scale opioid drug rings ran by Doctors through Big Pharma reps are being busted by the DEA in multiple states across the country.

Are there good doctors out there with your best interested in mind? Sure.....but 99% come on man lol
 
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You right bro I respect that.

It’s been on and off with my therapist, I saw her a lot my junior year of hs and a lot more recently. I’ve encountered a number of problems and honestly blame myself for a lot of them. I’m just having difficulty being consistent.
So you admit you're human?!?!

Give yourself a break. You can't fix things if you're busy beating yourself up. You will be able to get yourself past whatever it is you are dealing with.
 

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IMO it's easier being 41 than it is to be 21 these days
It aint easy homie.....in this age of social media and ignorance.....it aint easy for sure.

I myself don't have an Instagram or Twitter, I try to distance myself from that nonsense and the trends/stupidity that's spread. I always told my family I wish I was born earlier lol. I was born in 98. Fucking 90s (and barely, for that matter) baby.

I appreciate your advice though dude. I met again with my therapist today and I actually told her about how some of you guys responded to my thread (she knows about the Sicc from me lol) with advice regarding breathing exercises, following a routine, etc. It's just on me to actually do it.
 
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Yeah stay away from social media unless you use it to get views and or make some money. Other than that it's better to just stay off that bullshit. It's mostly broke loser and hoes on there anyways.. people with small minds having small talk. They won't help you get rich... ha ha ah aha ha ahah ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Yeah stay away from social media unless you use it to get views and or make some money. Other than that it's better to just stay off that bullshit. It's mostly broke loser and hoes on there anyways.. people with small minds having small talk. They won't help you get rich... ha ha ah aha ha ahah ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
Serious question. Do you realize that the ambition to get money is just a capitalist ploy to keep the economy turnin? Or maybe a noble lie which promises happiness and success but really just lines the pockets of the wealthy while you get whatever scraps they push down?

I'm not knocking you I am just saying when it comes to living life, I believe there are greater aspirations than making money or behaving like the oppressor class.
 
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It aint easy homie.....in this age of social media and ignorance.....it aint easy for sure.

I myself don't have an Instagram or Twitter, I try to distance myself from that nonsense and the trends/stupidity that's spread. I always told my family I wish I was born earlier lol. I was born in 98. Fucking 90s (and barely, for that matter) baby.

I appreciate your advice though dude. I met again with my therapist today and I actually told her about how some of you guys responded to my thread (she knows about the Sicc from me lol) with advice regarding breathing exercises, following a routine, etc. It's just on me to actually do it.
You were born exactly when you were supposed to be. Used to be wars in my neighborhood literally what seemed to be every goddamn night.
Serious question. Do you realize that the ambition to get money is just a capitalist ploy to keep the economy turnin? Or maybe a noble lie which promises happiness and success but really just lines the pockets of the wealthy while you get whatever scraps they push down?

I'm not knocking you I am just saying when it comes to living life, I believe there are greater aspirations than making money or behaving like the oppressor class.
BREH, I respect you for some odd reason. With that said, a farmed cow will stay in practically the same spot with a herd of cows and smell each other's shit and flatulence all day and all night. You may dislike the way I state some things but we live in a very trivial time and place and there is really no reason for us to spend energy on being forthcoming in a fake realm of existence other than to feed the vampires with those energies. Yes, you are right, money grabbing is a lower chakra event to consume us. Descendants will be too far removed to return to a natural way of life and will require this god to survive right.
 
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https://mashable.com/article/dmv-vanity-license-plate-def-con-backfire/

This article is a perfect example of the gravity of the situation.

When a part of a system is identified as being broken, you must be identified as the problem, and if you fix you according their directive, then there will be no problem (their pimpish logic). Now, of course it doesn't fix the problem, that isn't relevant (to them) so as long as the gears of the machine stay well oiled and flowing. You will see this in virtually every facet of the manmade human experience.
 
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Chunk,

I think we can sum this thread up and close it with this:

You still have an opportunity to not be ordinary. Seize it if you wish. If you wish not, then keep going through the motions that the ordinaries want you to. It won't be a pleasant existence that way no matter how hard you try to fit in, I promise you that and you will remember this when it's too late.

With that said either path you choose will be the right one- this shit is only temporary. Know your daemon.

Last edit, don't listen to me. I've never sold poison to you or your family, I've never robbed you or your family of anything, I've never had any motive or motivation to lead you astray.

I think we can end it with a page right out of NEMO @NEMO own advice constructed somewhere in the wifi:

 
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Hood Rat Matt

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Serious question. Do you realize that the ambition to get money is just a capitalist ploy to keep the economy turnin? Or maybe a noble lie which promises happiness and success but really just lines the pockets of the wealthy while you get whatever scraps they push down?

I'm not knocking you I am just saying when it comes to living life, I believe there are greater aspirations than making money or behaving like the oppressor class.
if you have young kids, and you're in a nightmare of a marriage, sometimes going in to your 9-5 and sitting at a desk for a decent paycheck is a nice refuge. At least I can afford a nice rope off Amazon when it's time :cry: