STRIKEFORCE & UFC: THE GLOVES ARE OFF
- Thread starter Shogun Locc
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I feel you. I really am one sided. I was never into org wars.. I was more into the fighters themselves.
Just like you, I'll support any org that puts out a show. I am more into MMA than too just look at one org or body.
I'll watch anything... I even watch WCL (alot of kickboxers and boxers are on there).. only thing I didnt really support was Iron ring. Thought it was bullshit.
Everyone wants that contract with the UFC.. bekuz that is the big show. Period. I think Dream, Pancrase and other orgs are dope too.. but would you leave everything behind to live in Japan (I personally would, I love Japan)... many fighters cant and wont.
Again, everyone wants that contract with the UFC, but the only time the UFC is gonna pick talent is if you have a name already or you're making some serious noise.
The fighter's I've talked to really get at it like that, they just didnt like how alot of the big names were treated.. but I'm pretty sure alot of the undercard fighters get treated even worst.
I'm pretty sure the cheap pay that undercard fighters get, they have to cover injuries or medical expenses as well as training expenses.
But that's just views and opinions I ran into. Its why when the IFL was active, the try outs were packed! They know they might not make in the UFC, but in another org... build you name and skill.. and I heard some of the other orgs were more compensating to the fighters. IFL also had a health care plan for fighter and a salary too. and maybe it wasnt the best mma show... but it was really for the fighters. I like the fact that after you've retired, you'd still be in the spotlight again by training a whole camp on camera.
Its really not about burning bridges with the UFC or not having respect. Its how fighters are treated by a company that is running a monopoly.
There's always been alot of criticism about Dana.
I'll bring another example up.
When the IFL came out, Pat Miletich was one of the coaches right? Dana gave him shit about him being part of the IFL.
What did he do to Pat? Dana threatened not to get any fighters out of MFS (Imagine if you were part of that). And MFS was one of the BEST camps bekuz they've produced alot of champions.
Why does Pat Miletich (no contract), teaching in the IFL, gotta do with your fight career? Imagine that Dana blackedballed you in the UFC.
What he do to Pat Miletich? Dana wrote him off the history books of the UFC. He was a good champ and was the first to hold belts in 2 divisions (if memory serves me well).
Dont tell me that AINT bullshit.
and there are alot of similar stories like this.
Gegard Mousasi talks about whether the UFC gave him an offer on Sherdog Radio:
JB: Were you offered and not told about an offer from UFC? Is there a rift between you and your management?
GM: There was no offer from the UFC. There were never negotiations about me going to the UFC. I have a 2 fight deal with DREAM. Even if I wanted to fight in the UFC it wouldn't have happened, I have also signed with EA games and I don't think the UFC is very happy about that. There was no chance I'd go to the UFC. Strikeforce and DREAM let me fight in other organizations, that was the best deal for me.
JB: To dispel all rumors, Is there any difficulty between you and your management at M-1?
GM: No.
JB: Were you offered and not told about an offer from UFC? Is there a rift between you and your management?
GM: There was no offer from the UFC. There were never negotiations about me going to the UFC. I have a 2 fight deal with DREAM. Even if I wanted to fight in the UFC it wouldn't have happened, I have also signed with EA games and I don't think the UFC is very happy about that. There was no chance I'd go to the UFC. Strikeforce and DREAM let me fight in other organizations, that was the best deal for me.
JB: To dispel all rumors, Is there any difficulty between you and your management at M-1?
GM: No.
