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You just prove that you're a Manny dickrider. So Mayweather being 2 pounds over 144lb matters? Does $600,000 change the fact that Mayweather won every round against Marquez?
Do you lack reading comprehensive skills? I stated the only thing I criticized Floyd for was not making weight.

You keep on telling everyone that brings up the fact that Marquez is 38 yrs old, by repeating that Marquez is P4P #4. You're a dickrider and you're repeating yourself trying to justify another Manny bullshit fight against an old man.

Juan Daiz vs Manny wasn't a war or the Casamayor fight wasn't a war? You are a Manny dickrider and everybody knows it.
There you go talking about your favorite body part, dicks.

Ignoring your ass for now, it's utterly pointless talking to you.
 
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Do you lack reading comprehensive skills? I stated the only thing I criticized Floyd for was not making weight.



There you go talking about your favorite body part, dicks.

Ignoring your ass for now, it's utterly pointless talking to you.
LOL. Like 2 pounds would've effected the out come of the Marquez vs Mayweather, so why even keep bring it up?

Oh that hurt my feelings so much Bob Arum Jr. Get the fuck out here with that faggot shit. You got proved wrong once again now you're mad. Go look at your Manny poster you will feel better soon.
 
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Also, since when did Ortiz become labeled as a top tier, young, dangerous fighter? Praising Mayweather for taking such a huge risk. It wasn't more than a couple months ago that he was labeled as a no-heart quitter with B level skills. He beats Berto and people flip their script again.
 

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I think both manny and floyd are to blame for the fight not happening

Manny: Why are you suing floyd lol? And Just take the tests damn

Floyd: What are you doing? Vacation is over, you could have fought manny by now if you weren't hitting females and vacationing
 
Jul 24, 2005
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Berto vs. Zaveck September 3rd on HBO

By Dan Ambrose: Former WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto (27-1, 21 KO’s) could be facing IBF welterweight champion Jan Zaveck (31-1, 18 Ko’s) on HBO on September 3rd, according to boxing news from Dan Rafael. HBO reportedly has set that date aside and is holding it for Berto in a fight against Zaveck.

There still isn’t any venue for the fight, but it would likely have to take place in the U.S where Berto has a small following among fans. Berto lost his World Boxing Council title in his last fight in an exciting 12 round decision to Victor Ortiz last April.

Normally fighters have to wait a while before they get a title shot after losing their belt, but this would be a soft landing for Berto if he can quickly fight for strap against Zaveck, who is seen by many boxing fans as a weak paper champion. However, Berto looked to have stamina problems in his loss to Ortiz, so Zaveck would have a good chance of beating Berto if he can fight hard for 12 rounds.

Zaveck, 35, has held the IBF title since beating Isaac Hlatshwayo in 2009. Zaveck has defended the belt three times against little known opposition and has won two of his three title defenses by knockout. The issues that boxing fans hav with Zaveck is that he’s not fought any real recognizable opponents since he captured the IBF title and thus he’s been almost totally forgotten.

Berto was in the same boat at Zaveck in terms of facing obscure opposition during his time as the WBC champion. Berto faced largely smaller light welterweights and little known welterweights since capturing his belt in 2008. When Berto finally did step it up and face a quality welterweight in Ortiz, Berto was beaten. As such, a fight between Berto and Zaveck matches two guys that have been carefully matched. Hopefully the winner of this fight won’t continue to face obscure guys and slip off the radar again.
 
Jul 24, 2005
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Wladimir interested in fighting Arreola in New York

By Eric Thomas: For his next fight, IBF/WBA/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko says he’d really like to fight in New York and take on Chis Arreola. Wladimir sees Arreola as a good opponent to take on in front of the American fans and it would be one of Wladimir’s rare fights in the U.S. He’s not interested, however, in fighting David Haye again because he feels that Haye can’t fight at the heavyweight level.

Speaking with sportsillustrated.cnn.com, Wladimir said “Let’s do it. I checked with Emmanuel, he thinks it’s perfect too. Arreola has more experience, he has lost some weight. I hope we can do it in New York. I want to fight in front of that audience. When I fought Ibragimov and [Calvin] Brock, a lot of people came. I hope they would come out again.”

Wladimir is also interested in fighting heavyweights Alexander Povetkin, Denis Boytsov, Derek Chisora, and Tyson Fury.

Arreola is ranked no. 5 by the IBF, and has put together a small string of wins since losing to Tomasz Adamek in 2010. Arreola has lost some weight and looked a little bit better than he did when he was stopped by WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko in the 10th round in 2010. But Arreola doesn’t look good enough for a lot of boxing fans to see him fight. But then again neither does Fury, Chisora, Povetkin or Boytsov. Arreola might possibly be the best of a bad bunch.

Compared to those fighters, Arreola arguably has the bigger power and a larger fan base but that’s not saying a whole lot. He’s incredibly slow and now that he’s lost weight, he’s not as big a puncher as he was when he was carrying around more weight. It would be an even worst mismatch than the Haye fight because Arreola wouldn’t have the wheels to run for his life the same way that Haye did in his loss to Wladimir.

Wladimir says he wants to fight before the end of the year. He’ll likely take on the best fighter of the bunch, which probably end up being Arreola. However, with his three titles, Wladimir is now going to be busy fighting mandatory challengers and that’s not exactly appealing. Wladimir will have to go over old ground by fighting Eddie Chambers again soon, as he’s the number 1 contender by the IBF, and Ruslan Chagaev is ranked #1 by the WBA. Wladimir already easily beat both of those guys, and it would disappointing to have to see him beat both of them again one after anothe
 
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Mayweather 'keen on Khan showdown

ESPN staff
July 5, 2011

Preliminary discussions have taken place over a 2012 fight between Amir Khan, the WBA light-welterweight champion, and Floyd Mayweather Jnr, the unbeaten American legend.

Khan has repeatedly called out Mayweather as he prepares to step into the welterweight division after a July 23rd title defence against IBF king Zab Judah.

Mayweather, who faces Victor Ortiz for the WBC welterweight title in September, would be the toughest-possible introduction to the new division - Khan is unlikely to face Manny Pacquiao, who is also trained by Freddie Roach - but the Brit is up for the challenge, and so is Mayweather, according to Golden Boy Promotions supremo Richard Schaefer.

"We believe in Amir and believe he is ready. These are big plans but Team Khan are on board," he said. "I've had conversations with Mayweather and his adviser Al Haymon and they are definitely open to a fight with Amir Khan, absolutely."

Schaefer also revealed that Mayweather, whose fight against Ortiz will be his first since May 2010, is keen to be more active in the next couple of years - although a Pacquiao fight remains a distant possibility, no matter how much Mayweather claims he wants it. Pacquiao has started legal proceedings against Mayweather, and there is no sign of their blood-settling dispute being resolved.

"Floyd has indicated he would like to do the Pacquiao fight," said Schaefer. "He said to me he'd be open to fighting Pacquiao next if the testing issue can be sorted out. Amir would then fight in the autumn against Mayweather.

"I spent the last week with Mayweather and he said he wants to fight more than once per year. Whether he delivers on that promise, I don't know, but I really believe he does want to fight several times a year.

"He's mentioned to me the possibility of fighting in December again. Floyd has rediscovered his love for boxing and is ready to go. He's hungry again."
 
Jul 24, 2005
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Booth: Wladimir is a completely different fighter than Nikolay Valuev

By Sean McDaniel: Trainer Adam Booth is only now understanding how different and how much better IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko is compared to former WBA heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev, who Booth’s fighter David Haye beat two years ago by using a lot of movement to win a close 12 round decision.

Booth stuck with that plan for Haye’s fight with Klitschko last weekend and it utterly failed with Wladimir easily negating Haye’s strategy of movement by quickly cutting off the ring and forcing him to fight.

Booth said this about Wladimir at Sky Sports News: “Wladimir boxed out of his skin.He couldn’t have fought any better…We know how quick he [Wladimir] was, but it was how quick he moved backwards and then came forwards and was assertive, which was kind of against his nature up until this point. Wlad is a totally different fighter to Nikolay Valuev

This wasn’t really any different type of fight for Wladimir than he usually does. Wladimir often retreats when his opponents come at him and tries to come back quickly with either a jab, left hook or a fight hand after he backs way. He’s been doing this from day one, which is strange that Booth is only now seeing it. Wladimir always fought that way. And it’s disappointing that he had Haye using the same fight plan for the Valuev fight with the more active Wladimir. It was a one size fits all approach by Booth and his fighter Haye paid for it by getting beaten and embarrassed by Wladimir
 
Jul 24, 2005
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Haye: I was all talk

David Haye conceded he had failed to back up his big pre-fight boasts after surrendering his WBA heavyweight title to Wladimir Klitschko in Hamburg on Saturday.

Klitschko dominated the 12 rounds to earn a unanimous decision and add Haye's belt to the IBF and WBO straps he already owned.

Haye was hampered by a broken little toe suffered in training three weeks before the fight but said the physical pain was small in comparison to the mental side of defeat.

"It is my ego and pride that is hurting more than anything else," Haye said when he dropped into the Sky Sports News HD studio on Monday.

"You can live with the physical pain but it is the emotional pain that cuts deepest.

"You know what I'm like before the fight, I give it all the big mouth.

"I talk the talk and normally I walk the walk. On Saturday night I didn't walk the walk and I'm gutted about that.

"I feel like I've let a lot of people down. I feel like I've let myself, family, everybody down."
David Haye Quotes of the week

"I feel like I've let a lot of people down. I feel like I've let myself, family, everybody down."
No excuses

Haye felt his broken toe was not the decisive factor in his defeat.

"It's not an excuse for the result of the fight," he said. "The result happened because he landed more punches than I did, the judges saw it that way and he won the fight on points.

"I do believe I wasn't at my best and, had I not injured myself, I may have been able to spring a little faster.

"Maybe I'd have been able to close the range. There were shots that I could see that I usually land that I wasn't able to.

"Whether it (the broken toe) made a difference or not? I don't know. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. Who knows? We'll never know. The only way to find out is to fight him again with it healed. That's a long shot."

The Klitschko camp have already played down the idea of a rematch but Haye is keen to avenge only the second loss of his 27-fight professional career - and would even be willing to change his long-held plan to retire on his 31st birthday.

"I've said it since I'm 10. I want to retire when I cease being 30 - and I cease being 30 on October 13," he noted.

"I've said it throughout my whole career but now it's round the corner, just over three months away.

"I'm hoping they (Klitschko camp) have a change of heart. They have had a change of heart in the past in negotiations.

"I'd love the opportunity to challenge Wladimir again for his titles that he rightly deserves to have."
David Haye Quotes of the week

"They said this fight would never happen under the terms that we actually fought under.

"The fight happened. The reason why? Because it made money. In boxing they say: 'if it makes dollars it makes sense'.

"If Wladimir knows he can generate more by fighting me than anyone else, fingers crossed he comes back."
Retirement

Asked about a rematch with Klitschko beyond his 31st birthday, Haye added: "I'd have to seriously consider it. I'm just hoping if there is a date that pops up, it is before October 13.

"But beggars can't be choosers. In an ideal world it would be before then and I can stick to it (retirement plan) but if it is after then... I've made a lot of promises that I've broken but, then again, I made a lot of promises before this fight and didn't produce the goods.

"I'd love the opportunity to challenge Wladimir again for his titles that he rightly deserves to have.

"As the challenger, given the opportunity again, I'm pretty sure I could do things differently.
 
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agree. khan has all the tools to beat someone like mayweather he could easily give him trouble just as zab did in the early rounds.... matter fact if zab beats khan i wouldnt mind seeing floyd & judah go at it again.
idk where all the khan love is coming from but to me khan needs a couple of more wins to even think about a fight with floyd
 
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Froch-Ward likely for Atlantic City:

By Scott Gilfoid: WBC super middleweight champion Carl Froch (28-1, 20 KO’s) and WBA super middleweight champion Andre Ward (24-0, 13 KO’s) is one of those types of fights that doesn’t matter where it takes place. They could put it on Jupiter or Pluto and Ward would still win it. On October 29th, Froch is going to get royally whipped and it doesn’t matter where the fight ends up, Froch is going to lose.

They could even put the fight in good old Nottingham, the home of Froch, and he’d still get humiliated in David Haye fashion. We’re talking different levels here. Froch is good fighter that struggles against quality opposition. We saw that when Froch was put in with the talented Andre Dirrell, and we saw it happen again when Froch got out-classed by Mikkel Kessler last year. So, the Froch vs. Ward fight is likely to take place in Atlantic City, New Jersey. But it won’t matte. Froch is too slow, too robotic and too elementary with his defense to beat a talented fighter like Ward.

You got to have the ability to block punches to beat a great fighter like Ward, and Froch doesn’t have that. He blocks punches with his chin rather than his gloves or his arms. That’s not going to get the job done against a guy like Ward. He’s going to be bouncing shots off Froch’s lantern jaw all night long and it’s going to be sad to see another British fighter get exposed after the shame of Haye’s loss to Wladimir Klitschko.
 
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Floyd Mayweather expresses his desire to Golden Boy's CEO, Richard Schaefer

by Johnny Benz, Doghouse Boxing

I personally love to watch Floyd "Money" Maywether Jr. apply his craft in the boxing ring. Lately we haven't been able to get much action out of Mayweather, but it looks like that is about to change.

CEO for Golden Boy Promotions, Richard Schaefer, who has been handled some of Mayweather's most recent fights, recently tells the BBC that he has spent some time with Mayweather and he has expressed his desire to become more active.

Schaefer tells the BBC: "I spent the last week with Mayweather and he said he wants to fight more than once per year."

Schaefer went on add: "Whether he delivers on that promise, I don't know, but I really believe he does want to fight several times a year
 
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Floyd Mayweather vs Amir Khan Heats Up

By Johnny Benz, Doghouse Boxing. - Talk has once again surfaced of Amir Khan possibly facing off against Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr. Khan is promoted by Golden Boy Promotions (Oscar De La Hoya's company), which has strong ties with "Money" Mayweather.

Recently quoted by the BBC, CEO for Golden Boy Promotions, Richard Schaefer spoke out on discussions he has had with "Money" Mayweather and his side in regards to fighting Amir Khan (Possibly within an 18 month time frame.)

"We believe in Amir and believe he is ready," stated Schaefer, adding: "I've had conversations with Mayweather and his adviser Al Haymon and they are definitely open to a fight with Amir Khan, absolutely.