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Ahh come on, Aussie; you're a faggot, too.
Don't take words literally...there can't be that much of a language barrier. You're an Aussie, not a french poodle.
Vic is a very good fighter; I can't deny that. I just don't like him. And in America, we don't say ''well, kudos to that young chap, but he's not my cup of tea'', we say ''he's a fucking faggot and his mother is a whore''...
Don't take words literally...there can't be that much of a language barrier. You're an Aussie, not a french poodle.
Vic is a very good fighter; I can't deny that. I just don't like him. And in America, we don't say ''well, kudos to that young chap, but he's not my cup of tea'', we say ''he's a fucking faggot and his mother is a whore''...
Margarito vs. Mosley Nearly Done, Jan. 24 in Las Vegas
By Robert Morales
Richard Schaefer on Tuesday said that "Sugar" Shane Mosley has agreed in principle to a fight with welterweight world champion Antonio Margarito. If Margarito does likewise, the deal should be done in the next day or two.
"I informed Bob Arum that from our side we are done," said Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, which promotes Mosley. "And he (Arum) is trying to finalize his side. The ball is in Margarito's court."
Schaefer said that if the accord gets consummated, the fight will be held Jan. 24 at either MGM Grand or Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. It would be televised on HBO.
"On regular HBO, wouldn't that be a great way to start the season?" Schaefer said.
Schaefer was speaking by telephone from Los Angeles as he was about to board a plane to New York City, where he said he will take in Saturday's fight between Joe Calzaghe and Roy Jones Jr.
Arum, who promotes Margarito, was contacted and he echoed Schaefer's comments.
"That is absolutely correct," Arum said. "Margarito is coming in this week and hopefully we go over everything with him and he can approve it. We talked to the managers (Francisco Espinoza and Sergio Diaz) and they're on board."
Arum said that Margarito was in Mexico on Tuesday. Diaz is in China for the WBC convention, but Arum said that Espinoza will bring Margarito to his Top Rank Inc. offices in Las Vegas as early as Wednesday but no later than Thursday.
"Obviously, we can't finalize anything without talking to (Margarito)," Arum said. "I think it's a good fight, a fight that everyone wants. But again, I'm not the one doing the fighting." Arum intimated he was very optimistic that the deal will be sealed.
"I think the money is fair, the money is right," he said. "I don't anticipate any difficulties. But I can't commit without talking to Tony."
By Robert Morales
Richard Schaefer on Tuesday said that "Sugar" Shane Mosley has agreed in principle to a fight with welterweight world champion Antonio Margarito. If Margarito does likewise, the deal should be done in the next day or two.
"I informed Bob Arum that from our side we are done," said Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, which promotes Mosley. "And he (Arum) is trying to finalize his side. The ball is in Margarito's court."
Schaefer said that if the accord gets consummated, the fight will be held Jan. 24 at either MGM Grand or Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. It would be televised on HBO.
"On regular HBO, wouldn't that be a great way to start the season?" Schaefer said.
Schaefer was speaking by telephone from Los Angeles as he was about to board a plane to New York City, where he said he will take in Saturday's fight between Joe Calzaghe and Roy Jones Jr.
Arum, who promotes Margarito, was contacted and he echoed Schaefer's comments.
"That is absolutely correct," Arum said. "Margarito is coming in this week and hopefully we go over everything with him and he can approve it. We talked to the managers (Francisco Espinoza and Sergio Diaz) and they're on board."
Arum said that Margarito was in Mexico on Tuesday. Diaz is in China for the WBC convention, but Arum said that Espinoza will bring Margarito to his Top Rank Inc. offices in Las Vegas as early as Wednesday but no later than Thursday.
"Obviously, we can't finalize anything without talking to (Margarito)," Arum said. "I think it's a good fight, a fight that everyone wants. But again, I'm not the one doing the fighting." Arum intimated he was very optimistic that the deal will be sealed.
"I think the money is fair, the money is right," he said. "I don't anticipate any difficulties. But I can't commit without talking to Tony."
Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe Agree To a Rematch, if Roy Wins
By Mark Vester
Roy Jones Jr. (52-4, 38KOs) and Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32KOs) have agreed to a rematch in the event of Jones pulling off the upset on Saturday night in New York's Mecca of boxing, Madison Square Garden. Jones says the pressure is fully on the back of Calzaghe. The Welsh champion plans to retire after achieving a predicted win on Saturday. Jones would love to be the man who crumbles Calzaghe's unbeaten legacy, sending him into retirement with a loss.
“A loss for Joe would be much more significant to him than a win would be for me. Winning would be good for me but losing would really ruin his record. To lose to just one man – well, you would have to love being that one man. The pressure isn’t all on Joe because people are paying to see me fight too and I have to keep my end of the bargain. But there is definitely a lot more pressure on him,” Jones told The Times.
If Calzaghe wins, Jones doesn't see the loss hurting his legacy. He feels that he's in a no-lose situation in the fight. A win over Calzaghe would of course add to his legacy.
“Nothing that happens in this fight can take away from my legacy. I might be able to add to it if I pull off this upset but that’s the only thing that will happen to it. To have a fighter as good as Joe come out and challenge me, because he feels I am one of the best, means a lot," Jones said.
"When another top class fighter says that, it tells you that I don’t need to add to my legacy. He is telling you all about it because he already knows how good I am. Joe has said it will definitely be his last fight but he has already told me he wants a rematch if he loses. So I know it definitely won’t be his last fight
By Mark Vester
Roy Jones Jr. (52-4, 38KOs) and Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32KOs) have agreed to a rematch in the event of Jones pulling off the upset on Saturday night in New York's Mecca of boxing, Madison Square Garden. Jones says the pressure is fully on the back of Calzaghe. The Welsh champion plans to retire after achieving a predicted win on Saturday. Jones would love to be the man who crumbles Calzaghe's unbeaten legacy, sending him into retirement with a loss.
“A loss for Joe would be much more significant to him than a win would be for me. Winning would be good for me but losing would really ruin his record. To lose to just one man – well, you would have to love being that one man. The pressure isn’t all on Joe because people are paying to see me fight too and I have to keep my end of the bargain. But there is definitely a lot more pressure on him,” Jones told The Times.
If Calzaghe wins, Jones doesn't see the loss hurting his legacy. He feels that he's in a no-lose situation in the fight. A win over Calzaghe would of course add to his legacy.
“Nothing that happens in this fight can take away from my legacy. I might be able to add to it if I pull off this upset but that’s the only thing that will happen to it. To have a fighter as good as Joe come out and challenge me, because he feels I am one of the best, means a lot," Jones said.
"When another top class fighter says that, it tells you that I don’t need to add to my legacy. He is telling you all about it because he already knows how good I am. Joe has said it will definitely be his last fight but he has already told me he wants a rematch if he loses. So I know it definitely won’t be his last fight
Ring Life - New HBO Boxing Series To Debut
HBO Sports is launching a new original digital series, Ring Life. The series, which will roll out on HBO.com, HBO Mobile, HBO’s channel on YouTube and as a free podcast on Apple’s iTunes music store.
Ring Life will follow eight boxing hopefuls with dreams of owning the ring. Each subject will have their story told in three four-to six minute segments, which will premiere in weekly installments through April 2009.
HBO is tying the digital shorts to upcoming bouts on the network. The first boxer profiled will be Dmitriy Salita, an up-and-comer on the card for the November 8 pay-per-view special.
The second boxer profiled will be Chris “The Nightmare” Arreola, who is fighting on the November 29 edition of Boxing After Dark.
Sportscaster Jim Lampley will serve as narrator on Ring Life
HBO Sports is launching a new original digital series, Ring Life. The series, which will roll out on HBO.com, HBO Mobile, HBO’s channel on YouTube and as a free podcast on Apple’s iTunes music store.
Ring Life will follow eight boxing hopefuls with dreams of owning the ring. Each subject will have their story told in three four-to six minute segments, which will premiere in weekly installments through April 2009.
HBO is tying the digital shorts to upcoming bouts on the network. The first boxer profiled will be Dmitriy Salita, an up-and-comer on the card for the November 8 pay-per-view special.
The second boxer profiled will be Chris “The Nightmare” Arreola, who is fighting on the November 29 edition of Boxing After Dark.
Sportscaster Jim Lampley will serve as narrator on Ring Life
Darchinyan: "I Will Hurt Jorge Arce Badly, Destroy Him"
Mark Vester
WBC/IBF/WBA super flyweight champion Vic Darchinyan wants to get some revenge on Jorge Arce over comments that were made where Arce called him a fraud. It was not the first where Arce took some verbal punches at Darchinyan. Last Saturday in Californian, Darchinyan stopped Cristian Mijares with a dominating performance to unify the division.
Darchinyan went on the attack, blasting Arce and predicting a very punishing fight that will end with the Mexican fighter on his back.
"When I fight him, you will see who is the fraud on that night. He is going to be destroyed. He will be hurt badly, and I'm going to knock him out very good - with very big punches. He wants to call me fraud? Come and stand here to my face and call me a fraud, and then you're going to see what will happen with him," Darchinyan told the Sydney Morning Herald
Mark Vester
WBC/IBF/WBA super flyweight champion Vic Darchinyan wants to get some revenge on Jorge Arce over comments that were made where Arce called him a fraud. It was not the first where Arce took some verbal punches at Darchinyan. Last Saturday in Californian, Darchinyan stopped Cristian Mijares with a dominating performance to unify the division.
Darchinyan went on the attack, blasting Arce and predicting a very punishing fight that will end with the Mexican fighter on his back.
"When I fight him, you will see who is the fraud on that night. He is going to be destroyed. He will be hurt badly, and I'm going to knock him out very good - with very big punches. He wants to call me fraud? Come and stand here to my face and call me a fraud, and then you're going to see what will happen with him," Darchinyan told the Sydney Morning Herald
Joe Calzaghe: Proper Respect - Not Until He’s Gone
By Cliff Rold
Some fighters, like some wines, get better with age or, more succinctly, the passage of time. Ring Magazine Light Heavyweight titlist Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32 KO) is likely to be one of them and it’s not an issue of what’s he’ll do in the ring this Saturday. It’s the issue of how he’ll be viewed a decade from now.
In November 2008, there remains a fair share of skeptics.
No one denies Calzaghe is and has been very good or that he’s had an exceptional career. However, the universal label of great eludes him particularly on the American side of the Atlantic. If he loses this Saturday to Roy Jones Jr. (52-4, 48 KO), the skeptics will reign mightily, at least for a while.
I suspect though as the months turn into years, Calzaghe will loom larger in history, that full appreciation will come after he’s not there to be kicked around anymore. The thought comes to mind in light of the almost certain election of Lennox Lewis to the International Boxing Hall of Fame this year and it’s no coincidence that neither w as an American.
Like Calzaghe, Lewis was always viewed as suspect in his prime. A loss to Oliver McCall and reluctance by major stars to run the risk/reward ration in his favor kept him just off the cusp of the embraced elite for years. He also tossed in the occasional turkey in the ring, like the fights with Zeljko Mavrovic and Henry Akinwande, which fueled red meat fight fans who could never get past Lewis’ accent in contrast with the bravado of a Mike Tyson.
Calzaghe has an appeal to the carnivores Lewis didn’t, with some thrilling encounters over the years but he didn’t make strong early impressions. Calzaghe started in the States as a rumor, the guy who knocked off Chris Eubank in 1997, but got his first big exposure against David Starie, an almost unwatchable win. It took several quality impressions in brawls with Richie Woodhall, Charles Brewer and Byron Mitchell to move him back to the brink of cross-cultural stardom…and that still didn’t come until a 2006 win against Jeff Lacy.
A win this weekend won’t bring him full recognition as a great fighter no matter how it goes down. An early knockout or lopsided decision will be chalked up by skeptics to Roy being faded; a struggle or loss and it will be used as evidence that in their prime Roy couldn’t be faded. In fact, a win could make it tougher for Joe. Antonio Tarver was reviled by some fans for little more than beating Roy Jones and talking smack about it, an affront to fans whose perception of Roy became almost intertwined with personal ego.
But, still, the recognition, will come.
As the Heavyweight division has sunk to almost guttural levels of tedium, Lewis’ shadow has grown. Fans who detested him now remember him as the last great Heavyweight. It doesn’t mean they love him…it just means they’ve learned to respect him. Lewis is not the first.
In 1975, Ezzard Charles wasn’t listed by Ring Magazine as one of the top ten Light Heavyweights of all time. He’s now regarded by most as the best of them all. Closer inspection changed perception.
In 1985, many were glad to see Larry Holmes leave the Heavyweight stage. He was never forgiven in his time for not being Ali…and yet in 1992, the crowd chanted his name against both Ray Mercer in victory and Evander Holyfield in surprisingly competitive defeat. He now remains permanently enshrined among the top ten all time.
If not Lewis, Calzaghe may most resemble Holmes one day. The fights he didn’t get or fight in pockets of his prime will be overwhelmed by over a decade atop Super Middleweight….
By over 21 WBO title defenses…
By his collecting every other belt in the division…
By his utter rejection of the next generation in the class with masterful performances against both Lacy and Mikkel Kessler…
By his ability to get off the floor to win strong whether it was against Byron Mitchell or Bernard Hopkins…
By his being the only fighter, including the young Roy Jones, to ever dominate the second half of a fight on the official judges cards against Hopkins…
And with a win this Saturday, he’ll ice the cake, bookending his title days by ending a pair of legends, one local (Eubank) and one global (Jones).
If it takes longer for all to get their piece of that cake, so be it. It will taste as good later as it will now for those who recognize Calzaghe for what he is already. Even in America
By Cliff Rold
Some fighters, like some wines, get better with age or, more succinctly, the passage of time. Ring Magazine Light Heavyweight titlist Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32 KO) is likely to be one of them and it’s not an issue of what’s he’ll do in the ring this Saturday. It’s the issue of how he’ll be viewed a decade from now.
In November 2008, there remains a fair share of skeptics.
No one denies Calzaghe is and has been very good or that he’s had an exceptional career. However, the universal label of great eludes him particularly on the American side of the Atlantic. If he loses this Saturday to Roy Jones Jr. (52-4, 48 KO), the skeptics will reign mightily, at least for a while.
I suspect though as the months turn into years, Calzaghe will loom larger in history, that full appreciation will come after he’s not there to be kicked around anymore. The thought comes to mind in light of the almost certain election of Lennox Lewis to the International Boxing Hall of Fame this year and it’s no coincidence that neither w as an American.
Like Calzaghe, Lewis was always viewed as suspect in his prime. A loss to Oliver McCall and reluctance by major stars to run the risk/reward ration in his favor kept him just off the cusp of the embraced elite for years. He also tossed in the occasional turkey in the ring, like the fights with Zeljko Mavrovic and Henry Akinwande, which fueled red meat fight fans who could never get past Lewis’ accent in contrast with the bravado of a Mike Tyson.
Calzaghe has an appeal to the carnivores Lewis didn’t, with some thrilling encounters over the years but he didn’t make strong early impressions. Calzaghe started in the States as a rumor, the guy who knocked off Chris Eubank in 1997, but got his first big exposure against David Starie, an almost unwatchable win. It took several quality impressions in brawls with Richie Woodhall, Charles Brewer and Byron Mitchell to move him back to the brink of cross-cultural stardom…and that still didn’t come until a 2006 win against Jeff Lacy.
A win this weekend won’t bring him full recognition as a great fighter no matter how it goes down. An early knockout or lopsided decision will be chalked up by skeptics to Roy being faded; a struggle or loss and it will be used as evidence that in their prime Roy couldn’t be faded. In fact, a win could make it tougher for Joe. Antonio Tarver was reviled by some fans for little more than beating Roy Jones and talking smack about it, an affront to fans whose perception of Roy became almost intertwined with personal ego.
But, still, the recognition, will come.
As the Heavyweight division has sunk to almost guttural levels of tedium, Lewis’ shadow has grown. Fans who detested him now remember him as the last great Heavyweight. It doesn’t mean they love him…it just means they’ve learned to respect him. Lewis is not the first.
In 1975, Ezzard Charles wasn’t listed by Ring Magazine as one of the top ten Light Heavyweights of all time. He’s now regarded by most as the best of them all. Closer inspection changed perception.
In 1985, many were glad to see Larry Holmes leave the Heavyweight stage. He was never forgiven in his time for not being Ali…and yet in 1992, the crowd chanted his name against both Ray Mercer in victory and Evander Holyfield in surprisingly competitive defeat. He now remains permanently enshrined among the top ten all time.
If not Lewis, Calzaghe may most resemble Holmes one day. The fights he didn’t get or fight in pockets of his prime will be overwhelmed by over a decade atop Super Middleweight….
By over 21 WBO title defenses…
By his collecting every other belt in the division…
By his utter rejection of the next generation in the class with masterful performances against both Lacy and Mikkel Kessler…
By his ability to get off the floor to win strong whether it was against Byron Mitchell or Bernard Hopkins…
By his being the only fighter, including the young Roy Jones, to ever dominate the second half of a fight on the official judges cards against Hopkins…
And with a win this Saturday, he’ll ice the cake, bookending his title days by ending a pair of legends, one local (Eubank) and one global (Jones).
If it takes longer for all to get their piece of that cake, so be it. It will taste as good later as it will now for those who recognize Calzaghe for what he is already. Even in America
Calzaghe: "Americans Ignorant, Euro Fighters Are Better"
By Mark Vester
Days away from what may be the final fight of his career, Joe Calzaghe lashed out at all the hype about American fighters being better than European fighters. He went on the kind of rant that will make him the sure villain when he faces Roy Jones Jr. on Saturday night at New York's Madison Square Garden.
“Americans can’t fight as well as they think they can. They have always been ignorant. That’s why they have never given me the respect I deserve. Things have changed. The US didn’t win one boxing medal at the Beijing Olympics, they don’t have one heavyweight world champ. In years gone by that was an unthinkable situation. The heavyweight division is dominated by Ukrainians and Russians," Calzaghe told The Sun.
Calzaghe says the times have changed, he feels Euro fighters are better than their counterparts in America and Euro fighters no longer have to come to America to make it big.
“Boxing isn’t what it used to be for America but they still say ‘You have to fight in the States or you’re just another European fighter’. I feel the Europeans are now better fighters than their American counterparts,” Calzaghe said.
Unless Jones pulls off an upset, Calzaghe plans to walk away from the sport with an undefeated record. He did open the door for a possible return if the right challenge presents itself.
“Only when I am out of boxing will I be able to say 100% that I am not coming back because I just don’t know how I am going to feel. Maybe six months or so after I have retired I’ll find myself bored s***less and there will be some other youngster coming through and I might think I could give him a going over," Calzaghe said.
By Mark Vester
Days away from what may be the final fight of his career, Joe Calzaghe lashed out at all the hype about American fighters being better than European fighters. He went on the kind of rant that will make him the sure villain when he faces Roy Jones Jr. on Saturday night at New York's Madison Square Garden.
“Americans can’t fight as well as they think they can. They have always been ignorant. That’s why they have never given me the respect I deserve. Things have changed. The US didn’t win one boxing medal at the Beijing Olympics, they don’t have one heavyweight world champ. In years gone by that was an unthinkable situation. The heavyweight division is dominated by Ukrainians and Russians," Calzaghe told The Sun.
Calzaghe says the times have changed, he feels Euro fighters are better than their counterparts in America and Euro fighters no longer have to come to America to make it big.
“Boxing isn’t what it used to be for America but they still say ‘You have to fight in the States or you’re just another European fighter’. I feel the Europeans are now better fighters than their American counterparts,” Calzaghe said.
Unless Jones pulls off an upset, Calzaghe plans to walk away from the sport with an undefeated record. He did open the door for a possible return if the right challenge presents itself.
“Only when I am out of boxing will I be able to say 100% that I am not coming back because I just don’t know how I am going to feel. Maybe six months or so after I have retired I’ll find myself bored s***less and there will be some other youngster coming through and I might think I could give him a going over," Calzaghe said.
Mosley To Hire Nazim Richardson For Margarito Duel
By Mark Vester
It appears that Shane Mosley, for the second time in his career, has fired his father/trainer Jack Mosley.
As reported earlier by BoxingScene.com's Robert Morales, a deal is almost complete for Mosley to challenge WBA welterweight champion Antonio Margarito on January 24 in Las Vegas. Mosley wants to hire Nazim Richardson to train him for the fight. Richardson trains Mosley's Golden Boy Promotions partner, Bernard Hopkins.
Mosley told writer Dan Rafael that his decision to replace his father began to echo in his head during the training camp for the fight with Ricardo Mayorga [Sept. 27], who Mosley knocked out in the twelfth round. The father and son combo were clashing on several things and Mosley felt a change was needed. He tells Rafael that Richardson will prepare him well for Margarito.
"I've talked to [Richardson] on several occasions," Mosley said. "I know what his style is and he has a pretty good style. He's good during the fight and at solving different styles. I've been in camp when he's been training Bernard, so I've been around him. He knows what he is doing."
"I have agreed to it. Now it's up to Margarito to work his deal out with his promoter. I'm looking to fight the best out there and he's considered the best at welterweight, a big strong guy, a terror at 147."
By Mark Vester
It appears that Shane Mosley, for the second time in his career, has fired his father/trainer Jack Mosley.
As reported earlier by BoxingScene.com's Robert Morales, a deal is almost complete for Mosley to challenge WBA welterweight champion Antonio Margarito on January 24 in Las Vegas. Mosley wants to hire Nazim Richardson to train him for the fight. Richardson trains Mosley's Golden Boy Promotions partner, Bernard Hopkins.
Mosley told writer Dan Rafael that his decision to replace his father began to echo in his head during the training camp for the fight with Ricardo Mayorga [Sept. 27], who Mosley knocked out in the twelfth round. The father and son combo were clashing on several things and Mosley felt a change was needed. He tells Rafael that Richardson will prepare him well for Margarito.
"I've talked to [Richardson] on several occasions," Mosley said. "I know what his style is and he has a pretty good style. He's good during the fight and at solving different styles. I've been in camp when he's been training Bernard, so I've been around him. He knows what he is doing."
"I have agreed to it. Now it's up to Margarito to work his deal out with his promoter. I'm looking to fight the best out there and he's considered the best at welterweight, a big strong guy, a terror at 147."
