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Glad Marshawn is back but I don't like the deal at all. They shouldn't have given him $1 more.
Eh its not that big if a deal. They basically gave him what Sidney Rice was going to make anyway. I'd rather have a happy Beast in training camp than a displeased Beast sitting on his ass at home.
 
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^^^ I just don't like the precedent it sets. Hold out; get rewarded.

How about: hold out get fined and then get cut. Then; next man up

What happens next season when Sherman out preforms Patrick Peterson, is he gonna hold out until we make him the highest paid corner again?
 
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^^^ I just don't like the precedent it sets. Hold out; get rewarded.

How about: hold out get fined and then get cut. Then; next man up

What happens next season when Sherman out preforms Patrick Peterson, is he gonna hold out until we make him the highest paid corner again?
No, becuase Sherman isnt going to be let go. Many feel that this is Lynch's last year here. He is a RB, so his shelf life is very short. CB's are a different animal
 
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^^^ I just don't like the precedent it sets. Hold out; get rewarded.

How about: hold out get fined and then get cut. Then; next man up

What happens next season when Sherman out preforms Patrick Peterson, is he gonna hold out until we make him the highest paid corner again?
I don't like the argument that it sets a precedent because the precedent was already there. Its always going be there. Guys do this across the league in the NFL every year. It's not like if Seattle held firm that would prevent others from doing it down the road. It's the agents, the individual player, family friends, etc. doesn't matter what team they're on, guys will always try to get more money if they can.

And It's not like teams honor their contracts either. Guys almost never get the full contract. We all know the Seahawks aren't going to pay the $9m or whatever it is for Lynch's final year of his contract so it goes both ways.
 
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Have been reading a few articles about Phil Bates today...sounds like he is the next Baldwin/Kearse, in that he is a UDFA who is making his presence felt in the off season for the Hawks. Russell Wilson has been praising him big time. You know who else he praised last year? Kearse.

Who would a thunk that the SB champs could possibly have 3 UDFA's WR's on their 53-man roster if Bates makes it? Thats pretty incredible. And thats a kudos to the coaching staff...they know how to scout like a muthafucka.

Phil Bates looks to break out at receiver this year for Seahawks - Field Gulls
 
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I don't like the argument that it sets a precedent because the precedent was already there. Its always going be there. Guys do this across the league in the NFL every year. It's not like if Seattle held firm that would prevent others from doing it down the road. It's the agents, the individual player, family friends, etc. doesn't matter what team they're on, guys will always try to get more money if they can.

And It's not like teams honor their contracts either. Guys almost never get the full contract. We all know the Seahawks aren't going to pay the $9m or whatever it is for Lynch's final year of his contract so it goes both ways.

It doesn't go both ways though. Teams can't just cut players and not pay them guaranteed money. The players have the choice to opt for more overall money or more guaranteed money when they negotiate their contracts. They need to live with their decisions, just like a team would be contractually obligated to live with their decision to guarantee a player a ton of money who ultimately busts.

I would have applauded the Seahawks if they had cut Lynch and I am of the opinion that would have made other players on the team less likely to hold out in the future.
 
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It doesn't go both ways though. Teams can't just cut players and not pay them guaranteed money. The players have the choice to opt for more overall money or more guaranteed money when they negotiate their contracts. They need to live with their decisions, just like a team would be contractually obligated to live with their decision to guarantee a player a ton of money who ultimately busts.

I would have applauded the Seahawks if they had cut Lynch and I am of the opinion that would have made other players on the team less likely to hold out in the future.
read my quote from a few posts up.

No, becuase Sherman isnt going to be let go. Many feel that this is Lynch's last year here. He is a RB, so his shelf life is very short. CB's are a different animal
 
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It doesn't go both ways though. Teams can't just cut players and not pay them guaranteed money. The players have the choice to opt for more overall money or more guaranteed money when they negotiate their contracts. They need to live with their decisions, just like a team would be contractually obligated to live with their decision to guarantee a player a ton of money who ultimately busts.
Nah man teams never pay guys the full contract only the guarantee. Teams always ask players to restructure or be cut. It goes both ways. And its not like it was years ago, or like baseball or the NBA. NFL players have pretty shitty contracts all things considered.

I would have applauded the Seahawks if they had cut Lynch and I am of the opinion that would have made other players on the team less likely to hold out in the future.
That's foolish. I want to see Seattle repeat. They aren't repeating without Lynch. Would be a huge gamble to depend on Turbin and Michael.

They didn't break the bank. It's not hurting the team at all. If he demanded something crazy then sure, but the amount they gave him isn't that much. Basically just shifted his incentives from next year into guaranteed money this year. Actually makes it easier for Seattle to get rid of him in a year or two if he declines.
 
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lol@cut lynch, you serious? in last 3 years he has probley been most consistent running back in the nfl, and somebody who has his style and never goes out is super rare.
Dead serious. He will be 30 after next year. And Carroll and JS understand the next man up mantra. They have hinted this year about his departure, talking about getting him LESS carries. He read between the lines, thus asking for more money.

I'd be shocked if Lynch is here after next year.
 
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Lynch is 28. So after this season he'll be 29 (bday is in April).

It all depends on his play obviously, and Michael and Turbin. Everyone thinks Michael will be the future of this team. Dude has moves. But we got to see if his skills actually translate onto the field during gameday. If he has some good games this year and looks like he can be the man, then yeah, Lynch could be gone. But if he looks average or whatever they could need lynch for another year (they would have to restructure his contract probably, who knows how that would go. Its all speculation at this point).