WIKILEAKS "POISON PILL" IS UFO DISCLOSURE?

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Legman

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Is this what the GOM does is speculate about whether or not extraterrestrials are malevolent or benevolent?

I think some of you need to remove the Hollywood from your opinions and try to think a little more logically.

If they're coming for minerals(loose terminology), why are they in need of them, and how did they find them on our planet?

If they're here to kill us, what did we do to cause their dominance of us to be paramount?

Are they technologically advanced more than us?

Do they look like us?

None of those questions can be answered.

I'll reserve any questioning until the real news breaks.

And what's the deal with "poison pill"? I've yet to even see it in the thread.
so i dont wanna sound crazy but heres to being nutts...

read the old Sumerian Creation Story, you dont need to go into detail with it, just as long as you understand the story behind why "Aliens" need minerals from earth for their own purposes on their own planet

today, were suspending reflective particals in the air, in hopes of reducing global warming, cloud seeding, and helping to repair the ozone (of course all of this is just what i know from listening to the news, reading articles or watching documentaries, i know that doesnt mean its true)

but theres alot of similarity between these 2 things, considering the story is the "Annunaki" needed gold so that they may repair the atmosphere of their planet (by supposedly suspending gold particals in the air), and were using reflective materials in the sky to do nearly the same thing (ozone reformation, cloud seeding, and reduction of global warming)

i dont wanna say this is absolute and for sure, but it does make you think
 
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Ret. Col. Says UFOs Are Real, but Denies Government Cover-Up



Whether you believe or disbelieve the notion that UFOs are visitors from another planet, a former highly decorated military officer now comes forward with information that may infuriate those on both sides in the ongoing ET debate.

Retired Col. John Alexander, using his military savvy and high security clearance, spent a quarter of a century going through the top levels of the U.S. government and military searching for the group of people who were allegedly responsible for UFO information and the supposedly decades-old UFO cover-up.

His conclusions: Not only is there no such group and no cover-up, but disclosure about UFOs has already occurred on different official levels.


Courtesy John Alexander
Retired Army Col. John Alexander says UFO disclosure has already occurred, and the ultimate solution to UFOs is more complex than most people think.
With so many people crying out these days for the U.S. government or the United Nations or even the Vatican to issue some sort of "we are not alone in the universe" disclosure statement, Alexander says the information has been dripping out all around us, over decades, with top officials casually making statements about UFOs.

He references this 1950 remark made by President Harry Truman: "I can assure you the flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on Earth."

"Disclosure has happened," Alexander added. "It starts with former presidents Truman, Carter, Reagan and [the Soviet Union's] Gorbachev. I've got stacks of generals, including Soviet generals, who've come out and said UFOs are real. My point is, how many times do senior officials need to come forward and say this is real?" Alexander told AOL News.

"At one time, before a lot of this information was released, I could see both the classified and the unclassified material. And I will tell you that 98 percent of the information was already in the public domain. The only things that weren't there was stuff like sources and method, which is protected, but the information about the incident was already out there."

Several months ago, a group of ex-military officers came forward to discuss their experiences when UFOs reportedly tampered with American nuclear missile sites. While Alexander acknowledges the events, he suggests why there was no intense intelligence investigation of these incidents.

"They absolutely happened, but when it's a one-time event, the attitude of investigators is: If it happens again, we'll get nervous, but since it didn't happen, put it aside.

"It's sort of an indictment that says, despite overwhelming evidence of interaction with strategic systems, nothing was done. And in my view, it is put, like a number of things, in the too-tough-to-handle bin."

The 74-year-old former Green Beret A-Team commander and developer of weapons at Los Alamos, N.M., is one of many speakers presenting his views at this week's International UFO Congress in Scottsdale, Ariz. He takes issue with both true believers (who assume any strange light in the sky is from another planet) and hard-nosed skeptics (who debunk any and all UFO reports and evidence to the contrary).


OpenMinds.tv
Nearly 30 speakers are attending this week's International UFO Congress in Scottsdale, Ariz.
In his new book, "UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies and Realities" (Thomas Dunne Books), Alexander jumps right to the chase, saying, "UFOs are real! With no prevarication or qualification of terms, there are physical objects of unknown origin that do transit our universe. The evidence that supports those statements is simply overwhelming."

The evidence he speaks of includes the hard data of sensor technology that has frequently confirmed the reality of physical craft and the high quality of extremely reliable eyewitnesses who are "neither misreporting facts nor delusional."

After spending decades deeply embroiled behind the scenes, Alexander's assertion of the reality of UFOs still leaves the bigger question: What's the origin and purpose of these unexplained machines? (If, in fact, they are machines in the sense that we use that term.)

"The problem is, when you discuss UFOs, we are talking everything from little balls of light to hard craft a mile or more across, and everything in between. So what is it?" Alexander asked.

"I argue that, not only are we not solving the problems yet, we're not even asking the right questions, because we approach this wrong.

"I suspect that consciousness is a piece of the puzzle. We talk about UFOs, saying it's a technology that's 1,000 years in advance, but it really isn't. If you follow the history of these things, usually it is somewhat in advance, but not beyond our comprehension by any stretch of the imagination.

"The conundrum you get into is, yes, they are seen by sensors; however, at other times, they are not seen by sensors that should've seen them, and that's one I can't answer."

Alexander is a frequent guest on "Coast to Coast AM With George Noory," the popular overnight radio program. George Knapp, a multiple Emmy Award-winning investigative reporter and a weekend "Coast to Coast" host, praises Alexander's stance and suggests his book "will almost certainly infuriate zealots on both ends of the UFO spectrum."

In his review of Alexander's book, Knapp wrote: "Alexander's military mind instinctively gets to the heart of UFO cases and issues, makes quick work of charlatans and fools, and will likely inspire a new round of speculation about his presumed role as an MIB-type spook who spies on the UFO community."



In the early 1980s, Alexander created a behind-the-scenes government UFO study group called Advanced Theoretical Physics, or ATP, that consisted of members of the military, scientific and intelligence communities. With a top-secret security clearance, Alexander also had a tremendous amount of flexibility.

A key outcome of that study group was, contrary to conspiracy theorists' beliefs, that nobody in the government was responsible for UFO information.

He says that after his ATP group looked at many UFO cases, they came to some key conclusions:

-There was sufficient evidence supported by high-quality data to know that some UFO cases were real anomalies -- not just poor observation or misidentification.

-There were cases involving military weapon systems that posed a significant threat and should be investigated.

-Multisensory data supported observations of physical craft that performed intelligent maneuvers that were far beyond any known human capability.

-There were cases that involved trace physical evidence.

-Study of the UFO data could provide a potential for a leap in technology.



All that being said, Alexander also states that the infamous Roswell, N.M., UFO case of 1947 was not, in fact, a crashed alien spacecraft but a top-secret military project called Mogul.

"It was a real incident, no doubt about it. The Air Force played it abysmally, but I think there is a prosaic answer, and that was Project Mogul," Alexander explained. "It wasn't a weather balloon -- it was something really quite different. This was designed to listen to the Soviet Union.

"So when they say it was stretched out across the field, yup, exactly the way it was done. It was supersecret and it didn't involve UFOs."



After many years of deep research into UFOs, Alexander is convinced from both a personal and military point of view that it's a much more complex issue than the idea of Earth being visited by extraterrestrials. He proposes a concept called precognitive sentient phenomena.

"The point is there is something out there that is sentient. When I say precognitive, it knows -- whatever it is -- not only what it is going to present, but how we are going to respond to it.

"The public is interested but ambivalent in general. The public believes in UFOs, but it doesn't affect their daily lives," Alexander explained. "In the military, you learn very quickly it is not career-enhancing to bring up anomalies that you don't have good answers for.

"There's a euphemism in the military: If you bring me a problem, bring me a
solution."




http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/23/retired-army-colonel-says-ufos-are-real-but-denies-government-c/
 

milkky

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maybe extraterrestrials are not only evolved in a physical and intellectual way, but also in a spiritual way. maybe they understand that all is one. that we are all crumbs of the same cookie. maybe to become whole, those crumbs need to realize this oneness through knowledge of self, utilization of free will, and gaining understanding through life experiences, eventually understanding that there is no self and that unification is the key to evolution, to the next step. maybe human beings are the last ones to figure this out, we are so stuck in the perspective that we are all there is. we kill ourselves, we pray to false gods, we repeat these cycles of self destruction etc without any real progression. if all is one and their evolution is dependent on us joining the whole, like a puzzle piece thats necessary to complete the puzzle, maybe they depend on us to figure it out, but they cant just come out and say it because that would violate the law of free will. so they give hints, slip things through, inspire curiosity and truthseeking in their own subtle ways. maybe they gave us tech to help us communicate, to help us focus on things that really matter instead of manual labor and such. like helping tesla discover a/c in that "flash of light" to help illuminate the world in a physical way to speed up the illumination in a spiritual way. maybe they gave us nucleur energy and we decided to use it as a weapon, so they feel its their responsibility to hang around and make sure we dont kill ourselves with it. maybe love has something to do with it...
I think this is definitely a part of both our problem and solution for ourcivilization.. Everything I have read so far about UFOs and Extra Terrestials says that one main reason there has not been outright interaction is due to the fact our worlds divided.. Between country, ethnic, poverty, religious levels etc.. The "aliens" have no idea who to talk to regarding relations, wether it be positive or negative towards our human race. We are currently so far from 'coming together as a whole' wether it's for spiritual development, or if our whole existence is threatened..etc... Idk.. Who knows.. But our society regardless does "need to" start focusing on shit thAt really matters, especially if we want to be on a equal level/playing field with the extra Terrestials..
 
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so i dont wanna sound crazy but heres to being nutts...

read the old Sumerian Creation Story, you dont need to go into detail with it, just as long as you understand the story behind why "Aliens" need minerals from earth for their own purposes on their own planet

today, were suspending reflective particals in the air, in hopes of reducing global warming, cloud seeding, and helping to repair the ozone (of course all of this is just what i know from listening to the news, reading articles or watching documentaries, i know that doesnt mean its true)

but theres alot of similarity between these 2 things, considering the story is the "Annunaki" needed gold so that they may repair the atmosphere of their planet (by supposedly suspending gold particals in the air), and were using reflective materials in the sky to do nearly the same thing (ozone reformation, cloud seeding, and reduction of global warming)

i dont wanna say this is absolute and for sure, but it does make you think
Is this Zecharia Sitchin's work or is this the actual Sumerian mythology? I haven't done much reading in this subject.
 
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I think this is definitely a part of both our problem and solution for ourcivilization.. Everything I have read so far about UFOs and Extra Terrestials says that one main reason there has not been outright interaction is due to the fact our worlds divided.. Between country, ethnic, poverty, religious levels etc.. The "aliens" have no idea who to talk to regarding relations, wether it be positive or negative towards our human race. We are currently so far from 'coming together as a whole' wether it's for spiritual development, or if our whole existence is threatened..etc... Idk.. Who knows.. But our society regardless does "need to" start focusing on shit thAt really matters, especially if we want to be on a equal level/playing field with the extra Terrestials..